Comments on: An Open Letter re Modern Day “Sannyas”

By: Kranti

Kranti — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:24:57 +0000

” Avoid those pretenders who decide for you; take the reins in your own hands.
You have to decide. In fact, in that very decisiveness, your soul is born.
When others decide for you, your soul remains asleep and dull.
When you start deciding on your own, a sharpness arises. ” – Osho

By: Arun P Rajasingh

Arun P Rajasingh — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:45:22 +0000

I feel that arguing about what is right and what is wrong and discussing about the being of Osho is waste of time…..

Clock is ticking…. what are we going to do….. just forget about the people who commercialize spirituality which is the essence of humane being….

I know there were 5000 people who lived with Osho in Oregon, USA…. My question is why even 1 of them were not able to continue the work of Osho which is nothing but pouring ice cold water on a person who is deep asleep…. He obviously didn’t do it to change the entire world. But it is useful for the 1% of the human race who are awakened and are tortured by the majority and the other 1% who were in the middle of the 98% asleep and 1% awake…. The 1%, we could say that they are half asleep and any moment they will be absolutely awake if we join together and do something sensible… I am ready to take on this endeavor and I don’t care about the consequences….. I have found out that this is my life’s purpose….

Check out my channel on YouTube and contact me and lets get into action my fellow humane beings….

Thanks for your time….

Love Happiness Peace is always with U….

Cheers ~arun

By: shantam Prem

shantam Prem — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:42:31 +0000

I think and feel that this forum here is an opportunity, a group from Osho to check how much honesty we can bring out.
Just today i have seen that “Free, Fair, Fearless”, is a logo of one of the India’s most dedicated mgazine to quality journalism “Tehelka”.
And the way ancient seekers have mentioned,
Tamso Man jyotirgamay. (from darkness to light)
Asto man Sadgamyay…(from lies to truth)
Mritu man Amritgamay..(from death to deathlessness)

By: Kranti

Kranti — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:28:59 +0000

Sorry

I heard JK said ” be tremendously honest with yourself throughout your being “

By: Kranti

Kranti — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:28:11 +0000

JK said we need to be ” tremendously honest with yourself throughout your being “

By: shantam Prem

shantam Prem — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:32:48 +0000

Thanks Garimo for the tease.
To err is human and what a joy to be human.

So let me pharse the sentence again and if again something is missing, please convey.

The way I have heard, Osho saying thousands of times….

By: garimo

garimo — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:05:13 +0000

>>>That is why Osho has insisted thousands of time, never say, Buddha said like this, always mention, i have heard Buddha saying..

That’s why you heard Osho insist thousands of times…?

sorry, couldn’t resist.

By: shantam Prem

shantam Prem — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:24:15 +0000

That is why Osho has insisted thousands of time, never say, Buddha said like this, always mention, i have heard Buddha saying..
This give scope to other disciple’s interpretation too, and in the process all the interpretations make the work colorful, rich.
Priests are not the people, who ware certain kind of robes or have a certain kind of beard, Priests are the parasites who eat out other delicate interpretations of the scriptures, they may even ware three piece.

By: Shahriar

Shahriar — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:05:12 +0000

It seems to me that each sannyasin will only represent their understanding of Osho. No one will “represent” Osho himself because that is impossible. And as far as enlightenment is concerned, no enlightend person needs the authority of Osho behind his words. Enlightened persons can simply speak on their own authority. And Osho does not need any interpretor to be understood. He can be understood directly. So each sannyasin will only be representing their understanding of Osho and his vision, not Osho’ vision itself. For instance, no christian priest says that this is my understanding of Jesus Christ and not the actual truth of Christ. They claim that what they are saying is exactly what Jesus meant when he spoke. Muslim ayatollahs do the same. They never say that this is their understanding of Mohammad. They say that is Mohammad’s actual message itself.

This seems to be something we should consider.

By: Shahriar

Shahriar — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:47:00 +0000

It seems to me that if Osho had a key to entrust, which it seems he did, he would entrust it into the hands of conscious people so that it could be preserved. People who would know what to do, in different situations. Something perhaps like an esoteric group of wise ones. Obviously there is no way to judge what Amrito and Jayesh are doing, because right now there may not be any way of knowing whether they are wise or not for the ordinary people, but on the other hand waiting for them to screw up is also not right. I am uncertain about whether Jayesh and Amrito are the caretakers of Osho’s vision since he did not declare them enlightened as far as I know and since they seem to have been entrusted with only a very small aspect of Osho’s work, mainly that of resort manager and as an organization that shares the words of Osho with the world. This seems to be their only two functions. The purpose of Jayesh and Amrito was never more than a manager of Koregan Park and a functional organization whose purpose is to share Osho’s work. That is their ONLY function. Nothing more than that. They are neither spiritual heads, nor enlightened persons, nor wise ones, their only function is to share Osho’s words with others and to manage the resort. Jayesh and Amrito should be considered plumbers, or cooks, or dishwashers. They are nothing more than that.

One thing that I would like to say in relation to Osho’s work and Islam is that in Islam a group of politicians arose along with Mohammad who did everything in their power to weaken and maim Islam and destroy that authentic Islam which Mohammad preached. They were the politicians who cared more about power and wealth and position than about truth. Truth is not always respectable, or popular or powerful. And those politicians were muslims only as far as name and appearance was concerned. Their being was not a muslim, and ultimately it is not our words or our actions which determine whether we are muslims, or christians, or anything else, it is our being. Being is the ultimate determinant of whether you are a muslim or a sannyasin, and words and actions can be very deceptive. Therefore Osho would not entrust his dream to two main disciples but he would not entrust it to all sannyasins either. The reason is this: Anyone can pretend to be a sannyasin and work to harm Osho’s vision, so you cannot say that sannyasins are caretakers of Osho’s vision. sannyasins have the potential to do much that is harmful to Osho’s vision especially since there is no guarantee that by becoming a sannyasin you are enlightened and free from greed, jealousy, ambition, desire for power over others etc. etc. etc. So Osho cannot say that. On the other hand, he would not have entrusted his vision to two disciples whose sole purpose was to manage Koregan park/Pune resort and to make his words available. The only purpose for which Jayesh and Amrito were supposed to exist for/do exist is to take care of these two small and trivial tasks which needed to be done. They have no higher position than that, and they should not be considered as being anything more than a cook, a plumber or a dishwasher. That is their job and function. Nothing more.