To Fresch, from my post the other day…
I am a lot into walking and writing, Fresch – and the camera serves to take photos of nature and when I discover some art which people just by everyday creativity leave (be it street painting, be it stones of the riverbank they pile up for temporary sculpture).

I dropped photographing humans (portraits) at the end of the seventies,
but I was much into that some time long ago.

As I am not able to travel for quite a long time,
I became a street walker
and sometimes I talk my walk and I walk my talk,
and the premium experiences are when I enter a silence (finally) where the city or some suburban areas in nature
‘just walk through me’…

You and I are quite on different life – (body age) and other conditions –
so I hope you don´t get that wrong – when the issue to make money is not so much on my screen.
But what I can say is that the experience in Osho´s communes
had a great impact on what I could do for money and what not any more
(like being a therapist or a researcher working for a company).

So, that was a not at all easy phase sometimes to live everyday in insecurity, so long, as it had been a struggle to earn my living and look out for paid work.

Also -
I didn´t and don´t have a kid to take care of, unlike you.

So I read your posts with much interest in your kind of walkabouts,
and maybe we can just listen to each other – when reading.

Madhu

Thinking it’s all about “bliss experience” is one of the biggest psycho-spiritual myths around, common enough in sannyas, or used to be.

For a start, it’s not much use if you inevitably have to ‘come down’ afterwards, is it?

Searching for a ‘high’ – well, you might as well be into drugs or hope your team wins the World Cup…

The problem is that with Osho I have become too lazy to achieve all that. I only get sudden bursts if something truly creative and meaningful goes through. So, it’s not that I would not like all pleasures, but if it seems to take too much effort or being involved with too aggressive people, I do not seem to be motivated enough.

Most of the sannyasins work like that. Also, the creativity makes it that many ideas are ahead of our time, so somebody else will cash it later. It might bother somebody that I share about work, but these all also issues that concern many of us.

Madhu, I liked very much you having the camera as your favourite new book. Also, reading aloud to yourself is quite a creative act. Did you know that in Japan one of the most popular youtube videos are the ones where women whisper anything on the videos?

Madhu, actually my only interest in the ‘Her’ movie was that she said, “It’s between the words”. I was blown away. People see that and some day hear Osho saying that…have their experience of that.

I am interested how drugs work in our brain and body, because someone should make a map what happens physically in body/emotions while taking drugs, falling in love, meditation, doing different Osho techniques etc. I am just curious, like I am curious about many things.

I also thought that re my friend Shantam, who does not bother to answer to my post, I think you, Shantam, must be still having some withdrawal effects of bliss/ecstasy from your time in Poona. I was in Poona when they changed sannyas celebration to the bar and I was shocked. But perhaps it’s the right place for it; a zip of ecstasy.

I understand you, Shantam, had a lot of bliss experience, but not so much individual, meditative, more grounded experience. Also, you do not seem to be interested in it (meditation). I can relate to that too. However, I am committed on my own path, so for example I tried nadabrahma sitting on the sofa, it works. What a miracle Osho is.

I am talking of those of us who just lived happily and almost anonymously in his presence. We never had a front row seat, we were just ‘hanging out’. Of course, work made it easier and more structured to hang out. But one had to be laid back to catch the vibe.

Those guys in the office or in Lao Tzu were too full, it is true, of ambition and their egos, to even understand what being laid back’ was.

I suspect it’s just a convenient means for you to blame for any current personal discontent with your general situation.

But so far, in all the years you’ve posted here, you’ve shown no signs of having the fairly basic self-reflective ability to even consider that as a possibility.

The question would be better directed at himself. What kind of apostle is he?
I’ll give you a clue. This year’s golden chamber pot award for producing a mountain of bullshit goes to none other than ……………………….the unbelievable………the incredible….El Chudo.

And Parmartha, you think such people became apostles of truth?
Are they the chosen few?

If you compare the selfish deeds of sitting-near-Osho people with the people who were closer to previous masters, it is one of the biggest let-downs in spiritual history.

No master´s vision has been chopped so butcher-like as by such people.
Sitting near Him
Getting all the shades
They burn the woods
When it was winter,
When they died,
Only ashes were left….

And the belief -
helicopters will come to take them to the Tritrah land!

MOD: WHAT’S the Tritrah land?