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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 12:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fresch, 
If no one is supporting me here then it is a compliment. Masses on one side, Majority of the one on the other.

If it reminds you of someone else, tell my greetings if you come across.

Much love...you dear meditative and sexy woman! 

Lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresch,<br />
If no one is supporting me here then it is a compliment. Masses on one side, Majority of the one on the other.</p>
<p>If it reminds you of someone else, tell my greetings if you come across.</p>
<p>Much love&#8230;you dear meditative and sexy woman! </p>
<p>Lol</p>
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		<title>By: Fresch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fresch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 08:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam, if you think you do not have to meditate, you seem to like an audience. So, where is your following, which so much appreciates your precious words? None of them is supporting you here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam, if you think you do not have to meditate, you seem to like an audience. So, where is your following, which so much appreciates your precious words? None of them is supporting you here.</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 16:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And a PS...

Quite often I have to plug into the dictionary&#039;s web possibilities for better understanding or formulating too...

Then
plugging into that,
the face of the former Apple founder, Steve Jobs, comes into my requests as well as &quot;Google Earth&quot; advertising and whatnot...

So the daily meditation special tasks (to stay grounded) are as challenging as ever.

You may not get what you want
but have to deal moment-to-moment with what you get (not only before your eyes).

I confess, that I prefer a virtual mango to so much else presented so often...
And I dare to say,
&quot;Mangos for everybody and everywhere&quot; - 
they are delicious!

(smiley) 
From Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a PS&#8230;</p>
<p>Quite often I have to plug into the dictionary&#8217;s web possibilities for better understanding or formulating too&#8230;</p>
<p>Then<br />
plugging into that,<br />
the face of the former Apple founder, Steve Jobs, comes into my requests as well as &#8220;Google Earth&#8221; advertising and whatnot&#8230;</p>
<p>So the daily meditation special tasks (to stay grounded) are as challenging as ever.</p>
<p>You may not get what you want<br />
but have to deal moment-to-moment with what you get (not only before your eyes).</p>
<p>I confess, that I prefer a virtual mango to so much else presented so often&#8230;<br />
And I dare to say,<br />
&#8220;Mangos for everybody and everywhere&#8221; &#8211;<br />
they are delicious!</p>
<p>(smiley)<br />
From Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 15:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Shantam Prem,

Your decision to plug in and to send off the following words:
&quot;I feel like writing an article on this point, ‘Why sharing Osho with the world is an expired idea, albeit untimely&quot; -

to plug in to a microscopically tiny part of a virtual worldwide operation, the electronic &#039;brain&#039;, the so- called web,
open for everybody with the ability to plug in and read as well as comment,
seems to have been taken from an outdated understanding of that form of communication.

Ages ago in India, an Indian fellow-sannyasin once touched my forehead, 
smiling and saying, &quot;Take care that you don&#039;t get lost in your own spider&#039;s web of thoughts.&quot;
We have been laughing then, knowing (both) how often that happens
so that then is a memory of a friend-to-friend talk.

Plugging in to the electronic web, sharing words, 
I often feel (before and after sending)
like a Don Quixote miss
riding on virtual horses - in my hands empty books and empty love letters too,
having clearly a heart&#039;s address 
but not knowing about the receiving end as well as the outcome.

The best moments I have, when I write like a bird, are making music 
just like this,
and the best moments (before and after) are
when I am not up to something special, or better said, when I am able to open the inner fist into an open hand,

often helpless.


Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Shantam Prem,</p>
<p>Your decision to plug in and to send off the following words:<br />
&#8220;I feel like writing an article on this point, ‘Why sharing Osho with the world is an expired idea, albeit untimely&#8221; -</p>
<p>to plug in to a microscopically tiny part of a virtual worldwide operation, the electronic &#8216;brain&#8217;, the so- called web,<br />
open for everybody with the ability to plug in and read as well as comment,<br />
seems to have been taken from an outdated understanding of that form of communication.</p>
<p>Ages ago in India, an Indian fellow-sannyasin once touched my forehead,<br />
smiling and saying, &#8220;Take care that you don&#8217;t get lost in your own spider&#8217;s web of thoughts.&#8221;<br />
We have been laughing then, knowing (both) how often that happens<br />
so that then is a memory of a friend-to-friend talk.</p>
<p>Plugging in to the electronic web, sharing words,<br />
I often feel (before and after sending)<br />
like a Don Quixote miss<br />
riding on virtual horses &#8211; in my hands empty books and empty love letters too,<br />
having clearly a heart&#8217;s address<br />
but not knowing about the receiving end as well as the outcome.</p>
<p>The best moments I have, when I write like a bird, are making music<br />
just like this,<br />
and the best moments (before and after) are<br />
when I am not up to something special, or better said, when I am able to open the inner fist into an open hand,</p>
<p>often helpless.</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3753#comment-58869</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 15:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, SD, for sharing this much energy with good intentions. If one looks around at the life with a bit of depth, &#039;Good intentions are never enough.&#039; Many people with good intentions have brought mango seeds from India to plant in their courtyards; and then in every garden in neighbourhood. 

I feel like writing an article on this point, &#039;Why sharing Osho with the world is an expired idea, albeit untimely.&#039;


MOD: PERHAPS THIS THEME HAS ALREADY BEEN EXPLORED AT SN, SHANTAM, BY PARITOSH (CO-FOUNDER OF SN), BACK IN NOVEMBER, 2002!:

http://www.sannyasnews.org/sannyasnews/Articles/Things%20Fall%20Apart.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, SD, for sharing this much energy with good intentions. If one looks around at the life with a bit of depth, &#8216;Good intentions are never enough.&#8217; Many people with good intentions have brought mango seeds from India to plant in their courtyards; and then in every garden in neighbourhood. </p>
<p>I feel like writing an article on this point, &#8216;Why sharing Osho with the world is an expired idea, albeit untimely.&#8217;</p>
<p>MOD: PERHAPS THIS THEME HAS ALREADY BEEN EXPLORED AT SN, SHANTAM, BY PARITOSH (CO-FOUNDER OF SN), BACK IN NOVEMBER, 2002!:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sannyasnews.org/sannyasnews/Articles/Things%20Fall%20Apart.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sannyasnews.org/sannyasnews/Articles/Things%20Fall%20Apart.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3753#comment-58868</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 12:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam, this sounds to me that, faced with the prospect of simply offering your self and what you have re Osho to others, you feel your self rather &#039;small&#039; - perhaps even ashamed - while preferring to identify your self with something rather &#039;big&#039; (Osho&#039;s former ashram, as it was in &#039;the good old days&#039;). 

Pretty well par for the course, I suppose, in Eckhart Tolle&#039;s terms: &#039;the little self wanting and trying somehow to be a big self&#039; - even through imagination. And getting frustrated when it simply doesn&#039;t work, as for you the external pieces of the structure don&#039;t fit - except in terms of the dead past.

But, getting away from such tricks of the mind, ultimately, what do we really &#039;have&#039; anyway, except what we simply are, at each moment? That&#039;s the truth of our person-al reality, isn&#039;t it? However &#039;unsatisfactory&#039; it might be to any idealised fantasy self?

You&#039;re eloquent enough online about your apparently life-changing experience with Osho. Why not express that passion to a few people around your area who just might be interested and, who knows, even positively influenced by you? 

Especially as, really, you wouldn&#039;t have to come across as a hyped-up &#039;salesman&#039;, with all the concomitant effort and probable phoniness implied, as just providing the space for others to find their own way would be enough.

Take away any delusions of grandeur that would, relatively speaking, make any such small-scale effort seem bound to be &#039;ultimately futile&#039;, a &#039;hopeless failure&#039;, and you just might find it person-ally therapeutic. In any case, far more &#039;real&#039; than merely pontificating on the internet, wishing things were different (and imagining that your words are making any sort of difference).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam, this sounds to me that, faced with the prospect of simply offering your self and what you have re Osho to others, you feel your self rather &#8216;small&#8217; &#8211; perhaps even ashamed &#8211; while preferring to identify your self with something rather &#8216;big&#8217; (Osho&#8217;s former ashram, as it was in &#8216;the good old days&#8217;). </p>
<p>Pretty well par for the course, I suppose, in Eckhart Tolle&#8217;s terms: &#8216;the little self wanting and trying somehow to be a big self&#8217; &#8211; even through imagination. And getting frustrated when it simply doesn&#8217;t work, as for you the external pieces of the structure don&#8217;t fit &#8211; except in terms of the dead past.</p>
<p>But, getting away from such tricks of the mind, ultimately, what do we really &#8216;have&#8217; anyway, except what we simply are, at each moment? That&#8217;s the truth of our person-al reality, isn&#8217;t it? However &#8216;unsatisfactory&#8217; it might be to any idealised fantasy self?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re eloquent enough online about your apparently life-changing experience with Osho. Why not express that passion to a few people around your area who just might be interested and, who knows, even positively influenced by you? </p>
<p>Especially as, really, you wouldn&#8217;t have to come across as a hyped-up &#8216;salesman&#8217;, with all the concomitant effort and probable phoniness implied, as just providing the space for others to find their own way would be enough.</p>
<p>Take away any delusions of grandeur that would, relatively speaking, make any such small-scale effort seem bound to be &#8216;ultimately futile&#8217;, a &#8216;hopeless failure&#8217;, and you just might find it person-ally therapeutic. In any case, far more &#8216;real&#8217; than merely pontificating on the internet, wishing things were different (and imagining that your words are making any sort of difference).</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 00:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, Shantam, in case you haven&#039;t checked, a few days ago I replied to your last-but-one post at the &#039;Death of an Old Disciple&#039; thread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Shantam, in case you haven&#8217;t checked, a few days ago I replied to your last-but-one post at the &#8216;Death of an Old Disciple&#8217; thread.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 21:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Shantam, you&#039;re the one who constantly broadcasts his discontent with how Sannyas is going, claiming &#039;nothing&#039;s happening&#039; in western Europe, lamenting a perceived lack of &#039;centres&#039;, publically available meditations etc. Personally, I&#039;m not in the least disturbed by such concerns.

As Madhu and Fresch have pointed out, these suggestions are efforts to help you out of what often seems to be rather a depressive state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Shantam, you&#8217;re the one who constantly broadcasts his discontent with how Sannyas is going, claiming &#8216;nothing&#8217;s happening&#8217; in western Europe, lamenting a perceived lack of &#8216;centres&#8217;, publically available meditations etc. Personally, I&#8217;m not in the least disturbed by such concerns.</p>
<p>As Madhu and Fresch have pointed out, these suggestions are efforts to help you out of what often seems to be rather a depressive state.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3753#comment-58865</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 19:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don´t tell to me, but do it yourself, Satya Deva.
You can even offer Osho books like Hare Krishna people selling their publications.
Take Fresch and Madhu with; they can dance to the tune of 
Gobind Bolo...Osho Bolo...Gobind Bolo Osho Bolo...
Hare Osho Hare Osho...Hu Hu Hu!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don´t tell to me, but do it yourself, Satya Deva.<br />
You can even offer Osho books like Hare Krishna people selling their publications.<br />
Take Fresch and Madhu with; they can dance to the tune of<br />
Gobind Bolo&#8230;Osho Bolo&#8230;Gobind Bolo Osho Bolo&#8230;<br />
Hare Osho Hare Osho&#8230;Hu Hu Hu!!</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 19:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam Prem,

If these words you mention today (11.28 am)
are dead
they are dead IN YOU.

Truth is cruel
as truth is.

And it&#039;s not only painful for you
but also painful for your readers here,
and that for a long, long time.

And once again,

as I can see it,
you have friends here on the way -
look just only at Satyadeva&#039;s response.

Others I didn&#039;t read yet but will do so later.
Lots of energy you&#039;re getting and attention. 


Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam Prem,</p>
<p>If these words you mention today (11.28 am)<br />
are dead<br />
they are dead IN YOU.</p>
<p>Truth is cruel<br />
as truth is.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not only painful for you<br />
but also painful for your readers here,<br />
and that for a long, long time.</p>
<p>And once again,</p>
<p>as I can see it,<br />
you have friends here on the way -<br />
look just only at Satyadeva&#8217;s response.</p>
<p>Others I didn&#8217;t read yet but will do so later.<br />
Lots of energy you&#8217;re getting and attention. </p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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