As you say, it is too vast. I better drop it.

But if you prefer just drop it.

Just stick with ‘getting wise’. Can you accept that?

The rest is too brief and grand for me to comment on, care to expand?

Others it seems have not enjoyed that. One person warns above against the pitfalls of false expectations.

I guess that warning can be helpful.

For me though, I wonder how far this warning should go.

Humans fall in love all the time in sexual-romantic fashion, and typically then project many expectations onto each other, not always helpfully. The results can be dire, even suicide at times.

I myself got for myself dire results at times, including a long descent into alcoholism. But in the end I always came out wiser.

And falling in love was mostly so beautiful!
So I am not issuing any warnings. Fall in love, I still say! Just collect the wisdom as you go!

Of course I’ve had the time to work through most of that religious crap.

Sannyas and meditation aren’t instant coffee.

I don’t think we had the time. The kind of resistance we got in the US and the way it came on strong and fast, it put the organization into a different footing that what was (perhaps) intended. It went from a mystical school into the Alamo. A lot of the organization’s internal problems have to be attributed to that.

If you accept that we are all the same, (like peas in a pod), then you must accept that the more you know about yourself, then the more you will know about everybody.

Once you get a glimpse of the tabula rasa… that everything is conditioning… and it cannot be deconditioned but only (hopefully consciously) reconditioned.

Old style religions contained within their structure ‘therapies’, with elements such as confession, oath, contemplation, etc. In ancient Greece religious observances were called ‘therapies’. Modern ‘religious agnosticism’ is depriving man from the therapy element.

Osho was very wise to place western style psychotherapy as an aid to his meditations but unfortunately we know how that went… with the therapists turning into priests overnight.

Strangely enough, these days, many Corporations are using ‘cult type’ techniques in their transactions with their staff.

The problem arises when we don’t take responsibility ourselves and lapse into chronic blame, enjoying looking for evidence that the whole ‘spiritual trip’ is flawed, teachers/masters/gurus are invariably not what they claim or seem to be, therefore I have/we have been conned. A classic ‘victim’ trip.

As I said, therapy might be – and might always have been – more appropriate for some.