A stupid question always deserves a stupid answer. I’d love to know the rich English lady’s ‘mind process’ that brought her back… I wonder if she saw the connection between herself and the prostitute? Probably not. Was there a connection? It would also be interesting to know how GG treated her afterwards, and what happened to her.

Okay then, over to Anthony Storr:
“Fritz Peters (someone who as a boy was brought up in Gurdjieff’s commune) recalled an occasion on which a rich English lady approached Gurdjieff as he was sitting at a Parisian cafe table and offered him a cheque for £1,000 – if he would tell her ‘the secret of life’.
Gurdjieff promptly summoned a well-known prostitute from her beat in front of the cafe, gave her a drink, and proceeded to tell her that he was a being from another planet called Karatas. He complained that it was very expensive to have the food he needed flown in from this planet, but urged the prostitute to taste some which he gave her.
When asked what she made of it, she replied that he had given her cherries, and went on her way with the money Gurdjieff pressed upon her, obviously believing that he was mad. Gurdjieff turned to the English lady and said: ‘That is the secret of life.’
She appeared to be disgusted, called him a charlatan, and went off. However, she reappeared later on the same day, gave Gurdjieff the cheque for £1,000, and became a devoted follower.”

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My special chair, but not leather.

It is like India’s butter chicken will be cooked without butter and without curry!

Before there were “light religions” (i.e. solar) there were “moon religions”. Islam is a moon religion. Mohammed in his wisdom, did not invent the faith from scratch. He brought in a lot from the old religion in his area of operation.

It is difficult to speak of the “light” itself because it is meaningless until it hits something. It is also difficult to speak of enlightenment because it may refer to something like (the Japanese) ‘satori’, or (the Greek) ‘understanding’ [not knowing but 'understanding], or what is commonly known in the west as a ‘mystical union’, where the divine and the human are operating in lockstep.

What happened to “This is it” and as for, “divine opening” I am just not going there. I need to see it first. I prefer Parmartha’s “translucent darkness”. Nothing personal.

And your response, simply confirming what I’ve already said about you, further undermines your case.

The name of the game is as attempt to show that enlightenment is, do as I say, not as I do… when really is, do as I do, and not as I say. Basically, you are on your own, and those are just fingers pointing and because they are pointing, one doesn’t have to blindly go in that direction.

I am way too old to worry about opposing points of view.

Attacking the messenger belittles the attacker and not the message.

>> Or maybe you’re on a ‘wind-up’ mission….

I am only trying to embarrass you.