Am too busy to comment further today, so I won’t be putting the next question till tomorrow.

Enjoy your night off!

Commentators are always needed. That’s why you might be reading the Guardian instead of the Sun. Most are looking for ‘an angle’, ‘a viewpoint’ from which to look at the world.

For me to be an Osho disciple wasn’t like being anybody else’s disciple. It redefined the word. “What we did” was what created the new definition of spirituality. The word comes from discipline and the only discipline an Osho sannyasin should impose on himself is love.

On the bottom line Osho was a great commentator. For the ones still seeking he can offer a plethora of alternative viewpoints. For us, there is no hope. It’s good to know tho.

A bit? Why? Do you think there is more?

>> Ultimately one feels gratitude for life, all of it.

You are projecting. Gratitude for what? I wasn’t asked to be here. I had to even go and find my own teachers because the ones they provided were wankers.

you mentioned your english superiority by proclaiming your antiauthoritarian habits – compared for example with german heritage…
-english wittiness with humor – you mentioned as well
-you declared the net as i-guru sparing everybody “heartake” by consuming critical information about this and that (in time)

the point is that the net
more or less became kind of war-zone where combatants and very often in a quite anonymous way
DEAL with information and also very often wirth information not trustworthy at all
sometimes to get their often very hidden aims going by infiltration

i ve been meeting many english natives on the path
and ever so often it has been their arrogance and their kind of superiority complex taking much space
yet
we could laugh together also sometimes about the famous black humor

i found out though
sometimes – and also in these threads of chattings
that they are not willing to apply to themselves in every days interpersonal traffics what they recommend to others
when targeting others as inferior to them
that may be an heritage too by long colonizing others in seemingly less developed areas of the planet
what for example indians of upper classes imitated in sometimes really disgusting ways (against their own indian fellow travelers)

to be a “disciple” is not at all outdated -dominic, parmartha and body vartan

it s very arrogant to say that

as well as my feeling is that to bow down in gratitude
is not at all outdated
and be it for the simple possibility to sit together or to meet together
as humans beings and guests all-together (instead of combatants)

being here for the time being
on this planet

madhu

to give examples – i would say that bugging a person’s privacy is one of the crimes i mentioned being in especially perverted cases “legitimized”
other foul plays are to play stalking games in teams of stalkers
i know both of it
by being confronted with it for quite a while

i’ve been mentioning it very clearly also in this caravanserai threads ever now and then

so it may be also important that you learn to read again

madhu

I was too young to know about the sixties but all that, and “enlightenment”, were well past their sell-by date by the time I was old enough to understand but I could accept them from Osho. He was so damn convincing about everything he said, that I would have bought anything from him.

It depends on what time of the day you ask…

On a serious note, the mechanics between women and men, and between men and men, and women with women, have been so manipulated it would be impossible to find a blueprint.

Yes women are more prone to superstition, because that is what religion, devotion, and all that mysticism really is… superstition.

Most of the current emotional response is mostly programmed, because there are also other programs:
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/dahomey.html