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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, not clear whether this is the same Anthony Thompson PHD who points out discrepancies and innacuracies in Christopher Calders writing, and has posted on SN in the past. What he writes here is clearly not accurate.

Anthony writes of Maitreya, &quot;He used to be one of Samdarshi&#039;s followers. Had a couple of psychotic episodes and was subsequently expelled from the commune.”   

Maitreya has written in his biography that Samdarshi suggested that he leave his ashram in Khaknal, but this was not because of any psychosis. Actually, Samdarshi had already confirmed Maitreya’s initial enlightenment, which was said to have taken place while meditating with him in Byron Bay in 1995.  

“After another two years of passionate meditation with Samdarshi the ego finally left forever. On 26 October 1995 near Byron Bay there was a huge jerk in the belly and the psychic knot separated from him and disappeared. Maitreya had been fooled twice by satoris, this time he kept quiet about his experience. Even when Samdarshi said he had entered the fifth body, Maitreya made no comment. He wanted to see if it was really permanent.”


Samdarshi and his own master, Baba Purnanand, are well into the system of the seven bodies which Osho himself talked about in great depth  when he was speaking on kundalini yoga. Therefore, according to Maitreya’s  own account, after his enlightenment: 


“Meditation continued with expanding consciousness, love and bliss for another twenty months till the third-eye explosion in Dharamsala on 10 June 1997.” 

Before this he had been meditating intensely for two years with both Samdarshi and Purnanand  Baba, yet the sixth  body opening had not taken place. 

“For two months in early 1997, I meditated twice a day in Mahabaleshwar with Purnanand Baba, a beautiful soul who shares his enlightenment mainly in silence.

Every day we disappeared into the arcane realm of the sixth body, the intense cosmic fire of awareness that is the eternal witness of all.

During every meditation the third-eye drama intensified more and more, but still it did not open fully. That penulti- mate opening came four months and many meditation hours later after all human help had been relinquished.

In Poona I underwent surgery on both knees to repair damage from long hours of sitting on the floor without moving.

Nowadays I recommend chairs for meditators who are uncomfortable sitting on the floor. Meditation does not appear to be afraid of chairs, and it is more important for meditators to be relaxed and keep the spine straight than to achieve yogic mastery over the body.

I returned to Khaknal in April and kept meditating alone in my room without even saying hello to Samdarshi. I felt the next step would happen only in aloneness.

One day in late spring, I met Samdarshi on the road and he invited me for a visit. I told him I no longer felt the need for any support from anyone. He agreed and sug- gested I move to Dharamsala to be completely away from his energy.

That felt perfect and the next morning I left Khaknal for the last time, with Samdarshi&#039;s blessings and a sense of impending release from the all-consuming drama of the third eye.”

(From &#039;Biography of a Buddha&#039; by Maitreya Ishwara) 


“I knew someone who was with him with Samdarshi and he told me the guy was a just a nutcase. Even Samdarshi gossipped about his psychosis.” 

Yet, Samdarshi himself mentions Maitreya Ishwara as one of a handful of people who got enlightened with him in a recent satsang in Goa, the video is on YouTube.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, not clear whether this is the same Anthony Thompson PHD who points out discrepancies and innacuracies in Christopher Calders writing, and has posted on SN in the past. What he writes here is clearly not accurate.</p>
<p>Anthony writes of Maitreya, &#8220;He used to be one of Samdarshi&#8217;s followers. Had a couple of psychotic episodes and was subsequently expelled from the commune.”   </p>
<p>Maitreya has written in his biography that Samdarshi suggested that he leave his ashram in Khaknal, but this was not because of any psychosis. Actually, Samdarshi had already confirmed Maitreya’s initial enlightenment, which was said to have taken place while meditating with him in Byron Bay in 1995.  </p>
<p>“After another two years of passionate meditation with Samdarshi the ego finally left forever. On 26 October 1995 near Byron Bay there was a huge jerk in the belly and the psychic knot separated from him and disappeared. Maitreya had been fooled twice by satoris, this time he kept quiet about his experience. Even when Samdarshi said he had entered the fifth body, Maitreya made no comment. He wanted to see if it was really permanent.”</p>
<p>Samdarshi and his own master, Baba Purnanand, are well into the system of the seven bodies which Osho himself talked about in great depth  when he was speaking on kundalini yoga. Therefore, according to Maitreya’s  own account, after his enlightenment: </p>
<p>“Meditation continued with expanding consciousness, love and bliss for another twenty months till the third-eye explosion in Dharamsala on 10 June 1997.” </p>
<p>Before this he had been meditating intensely for two years with both Samdarshi and Purnanand  Baba, yet the sixth  body opening had not taken place. </p>
<p>“For two months in early 1997, I meditated twice a day in Mahabaleshwar with Purnanand Baba, a beautiful soul who shares his enlightenment mainly in silence.</p>
<p>Every day we disappeared into the arcane realm of the sixth body, the intense cosmic fire of awareness that is the eternal witness of all.</p>
<p>During every meditation the third-eye drama intensified more and more, but still it did not open fully. That penulti- mate opening came four months and many meditation hours later after all human help had been relinquished.</p>
<p>In Poona I underwent surgery on both knees to repair damage from long hours of sitting on the floor without moving.</p>
<p>Nowadays I recommend chairs for meditators who are uncomfortable sitting on the floor. Meditation does not appear to be afraid of chairs, and it is more important for meditators to be relaxed and keep the spine straight than to achieve yogic mastery over the body.</p>
<p>I returned to Khaknal in April and kept meditating alone in my room without even saying hello to Samdarshi. I felt the next step would happen only in aloneness.</p>
<p>One day in late spring, I met Samdarshi on the road and he invited me for a visit. I told him I no longer felt the need for any support from anyone. He agreed and sug- gested I move to Dharamsala to be completely away from his energy.</p>
<p>That felt perfect and the next morning I left Khaknal for the last time, with Samdarshi&#8217;s blessings and a sense of impending release from the all-consuming drama of the third eye.”</p>
<p>(From &#8216;Biography of a Buddha&#8217; by Maitreya Ishwara) </p>
<p>“I knew someone who was with him with Samdarshi and he told me the guy was a just a nutcase. Even Samdarshi gossipped about his psychosis.” </p>
<p>Yet, Samdarshi himself mentions Maitreya Ishwara as one of a handful of people who got enlightened with him in a recent satsang in Goa, the video is on YouTube.</p>
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		<title>By: james morrison</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/333#comment-3332</link>
		<dc:creator>james morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dear chetna
YES!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear chetna<br />
YES!</p>
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		<title>By: Chetna</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/333#comment-3314</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that&#039;s beautiful to see you are on a different path...Beautiful

I like your openness. We tend to immediately reject what we have not experienced, but the fact is to be open and accepting, yet undisturbed in own path]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s beautiful to see you are on a different path&#8230;Beautiful</p>
<p>I like your openness. We tend to immediately reject what we have not experienced, but the fact is to be open and accepting, yet undisturbed in own path</p>
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		<title>By: james morrison</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/333#comment-3304</link>
		<dc:creator>james morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re experiencing the very subtle enlightened consciousness directly i rejoice in wonder, and i guess you have passed beyond sorrow, so please forgive me, but i must follow my own truth and experience.
I don&#039;t even know who i am never mind recognise the formless entity osho dissolved into at death. If there is such a thing as life after death, i don&#039;t know i&#039;ve never experienced it. osho told me to doubt, doubt and doubt and doubt him especially...that&#039;s my path, not knowing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re experiencing the very subtle enlightened consciousness directly i rejoice in wonder, and i guess you have passed beyond sorrow, so please forgive me, but i must follow my own truth and experience.<br />
I don&#8217;t even know who i am never mind recognise the formless entity osho dissolved into at death. If there is such a thing as life after death, i don&#8217;t know i&#8217;ve never experienced it. osho told me to doubt, doubt and doubt and doubt him especially&#8230;that&#8217;s my path, not knowing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chetna</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/333#comment-3284</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cosmos, darling! That&#039;s the name I can give, the details I cannot give yet!

Disciples of Buddha still connect to his consciousness apparently, so do Osho’s disciples connect to Osho!

Can I prove it?- no! Can you experience it one day, of course yes. 

That’s why I was saying that this is the forum and much can be said. 

If you think Jesus is sleeping and is a fiction, that’s not my experience. He is fully functional too. 

Masters are so compassionate! Bodies are dropped, but not the rest!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cosmos, darling! That&#8217;s the name I can give, the details I cannot give yet!</p>
<p>Disciples of Buddha still connect to his consciousness apparently, so do Osho’s disciples connect to Osho!</p>
<p>Can I prove it?- no! Can you experience it one day, of course yes. </p>
<p>That’s why I was saying that this is the forum and much can be said. </p>
<p>If you think Jesus is sleeping and is a fiction, that’s not my experience. He is fully functional too. </p>
<p>Masters are so compassionate! Bodies are dropped, but not the rest!</p>
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		<title>By: james morrison</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/333#comment-3272</link>
		<dc:creator>james morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear chetna, fantastic that you know osho is not dead, please tell me where he lives I would like to shake his hand.
Christians say jesus is still alive.
Buddhists say buddha is still alive
etc
etc they all feel the living presence of the master etc
but according to osho and very other master i&#039;ve ever come across you need a living guru. and that includes buddha and osho who did it without a master, they still said you need a living master!
each to their own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear chetna, fantastic that you know osho is not dead, please tell me where he lives I would like to shake his hand.<br />
Christians say jesus is still alive.<br />
Buddhists say buddha is still alive<br />
etc<br />
etc they all feel the living presence of the master etc<br />
but according to osho and very other master i&#8217;ve ever come across you need a living guru. and that includes buddha and osho who did it without a master, they still said you need a living master!<br />
each to their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Chetna</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/333#comment-3263</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will just say one thing-Osho is not dead from my experience! For me it is a fact.

If in the future it will appear to be my illusion, mind etc. let it be!

I have no doubts as it is my experience!

I totally support you that blind believing is no help to a seeker. But being as Osho sannyasi, sensitive and searching, I don&#039;t think with Osho it will be possible!

I don&#039;t just read Osho, I practice his meditations everyday. And from my experience only then I can hear something of what he is trying to convey. 

In any case, dead or not dead Osho will not &#039;fix&#039; it for me, hence a question of believing is not of my concern.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will just say one thing-Osho is not dead from my experience! For me it is a fact.</p>
<p>If in the future it will appear to be my illusion, mind etc. let it be!</p>
<p>I have no doubts as it is my experience!</p>
<p>I totally support you that blind believing is no help to a seeker. But being as Osho sannyasi, sensitive and searching, I don&#8217;t think with Osho it will be possible!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t just read Osho, I practice his meditations everyday. And from my experience only then I can hear something of what he is trying to convey. </p>
<p>In any case, dead or not dead Osho will not &#8216;fix&#8217; it for me, hence a question of believing is not of my concern.</p>
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		<title>By: james morrison</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/333#comment-3229</link>
		<dc:creator>james morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dearest chetna thank you for your words and time...i loved your letter. I&#039;m still puzzled by the negativity I think I feel when you talk about someone having experiences, as if it&#039;s something wrong? As if you should keep your posts to a suuitable level of ignorance?
&quot;It is a forum and meditation is a private matter, nothing to show off! In fact, in my view experiences are barriers in meditations as they so easily can be the imagination of the mind to which one gets attracted to.&quot;
-if this is your experience and u feel it to be true of me, you should ignore what i say. please, follow your heart.
&quot;But what concerns me is the fact that you simply cannot be meditative and aggressive and vulgar at the same time!&quot;
-is this your idea or experience? I used to think like that but coming across osho and dropping the enlightenment game I realised it&#039;s just about being yourself, whatever you are and accepting it. It&#039;s the shared experience of all the masters that they were all unique. 
and as ive come across osho is the most offensive man in the history of human kind! as my friend said &#039;sometimes osho is just an angry old man&#039;!
I&#039;m not against pune, or sannyasins, where did you get the idea i&#039;m against wimmin? Osho is dead how can i be against it? I&#039;m not against anyone believing, it is beautiful and part of the path of no path but my experience is that believing is an obstacle to knowing so I will speak against it, what to do?? 
any suggestions? should i pretend that osho is not dead? Should i say believe in him so it wont hurt anyones pride? Should i just say what you want to hear?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest chetna thank you for your words and time&#8230;i loved your letter. I&#8217;m still puzzled by the negativity I think I feel when you talk about someone having experiences, as if it&#8217;s something wrong? As if you should keep your posts to a suuitable level of ignorance?<br />
&#8220;It is a forum and meditation is a private matter, nothing to show off! In fact, in my view experiences are barriers in meditations as they so easily can be the imagination of the mind to which one gets attracted to.&#8221;<br />
-if this is your experience and u feel it to be true of me, you should ignore what i say. please, follow your heart.<br />
&#8220;But what concerns me is the fact that you simply cannot be meditative and aggressive and vulgar at the same time!&#8221;<br />
-is this your idea or experience? I used to think like that but coming across osho and dropping the enlightenment game I realised it&#8217;s just about being yourself, whatever you are and accepting it. It&#8217;s the shared experience of all the masters that they were all unique.<br />
and as ive come across osho is the most offensive man in the history of human kind! as my friend said &#8216;sometimes osho is just an angry old man&#8217;!<br />
I&#8217;m not against pune, or sannyasins, where did you get the idea i&#8217;m against wimmin? Osho is dead how can i be against it? I&#8217;m not against anyone believing, it is beautiful and part of the path of no path but my experience is that believing is an obstacle to knowing so I will speak against it, what to do??<br />
any suggestions? should i pretend that osho is not dead? Should i say believe in him so it wont hurt anyones pride? Should i just say what you want to hear?</p>
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		<title>By: Chetna</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/333#comment-3207</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, James you are actually in the right topic too (please see above). I think you should contact Maitreya  to start a Satsang Teachers Association so your wisdom does not get lost. 

And then let us know so we can come and pay you meney for sharing your direct experience of Osho words. 

Ok let talk about this one&#039;They crisicise anyone for daring to suggest they actualy have meditational experiences&#039;

So you had some experience and that makes you understand, not believe, right? So you are trying here to declare that you are not a follower and we are here a bunch of idiots who are blind and don’t mediate!

It is a forum and meditation is a private matter, nothing to show off! In fact, in my view experiences are barriers in meditations as they so easily can be the imagination of the mind to which one gets attracted to. So here you are Mr special who has seen something. And if you have had some, you know perfectly well some of them a damn scary! 

But what concerns me is the fact that you simply cannot be meditative and aggressive and vulgar at the same time! So you do loose your Jesus hat easily! 

Of course everything I say or anybody else you consider a theory and not a direct experience. And that’s your assumption.

You are against Pune-great, I could not care less. But you are also against sannyasins, women, Osho as a dead master and every other thing you mentioned…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, James you are actually in the right topic too (please see above). I think you should contact Maitreya  to start a Satsang Teachers Association so your wisdom does not get lost. </p>
<p>And then let us know so we can come and pay you meney for sharing your direct experience of Osho words. </p>
<p>Ok let talk about this one&#8217;They crisicise anyone for daring to suggest they actualy have meditational experiences&#8217;</p>
<p>So you had some experience and that makes you understand, not believe, right? So you are trying here to declare that you are not a follower and we are here a bunch of idiots who are blind and don’t mediate!</p>
<p>It is a forum and meditation is a private matter, nothing to show off! In fact, in my view experiences are barriers in meditations as they so easily can be the imagination of the mind to which one gets attracted to. So here you are Mr special who has seen something. And if you have had some, you know perfectly well some of them a damn scary! </p>
<p>But what concerns me is the fact that you simply cannot be meditative and aggressive and vulgar at the same time! So you do loose your Jesus hat easily! </p>
<p>Of course everything I say or anybody else you consider a theory and not a direct experience. And that’s your assumption.</p>
<p>You are against Pune-great, I could not care less. But you are also against sannyasins, women, Osho as a dead master and every other thing you mentioned…</p>
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		<title>By: james morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>james morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dear chetna
&quot;James, it is a bit childish to assume that we know each other&quot;
-I didn&#039;t, later on in my letter i asked if this was true of you.
&quot;your ego is quite funny as it makes itself special by saying it was dropped! Dangerous move, my man, we have heard more than enough to sense the false! Have you heard that the most religious man is very humble and does not even know about his transformation?&quot;
-that means osho is not enlightened, according to your logic, because he declared again and again and again he had dropped his ego.
&quot;You know Osho? – That’s nice, say hello to him from me please!&quot;
-of course i don&#039;t know osho, i&#039;ve never met him, but that wouldn&#039;t make difference, I don&#039;t even know anything. my experience is, life is a mystery. From my experiences I can understand what osho meant. Otherwise I dismiss him until i experience it.
&quot;why do you care about sannyasins so much? Is your path a bit boring and lonely?&quot;
-if you don&#039;t care about sannyasins, what are you doing posting here???
Coming across osho gave me hope, for about 5 seconds, that it is possible to have a relgion without beliefs and believers. it has been proved wrong. Osho sannyasins are just like all other sannyasins. They blindly believe. They crisicise anyone for daring to suggest they actualy have meditational experiences. Despite Osho trying in every conceivable way to make sure his religion didn&#039;t fall into these traps. How many times has he said &#039;don&#039;t believe me&#039;?
I fucking hate preists and I hate how they have taken over pune so quickly and i will speak against them. that&#039;s why i&#039;m posting. I know it&#039;s pointless because pride is far far bigger but i have to say something. Maybe one day in a years time something will pop and at least one person said to you &#039;you&#039;ve fallen into the trap of believing, of idol worship, of following a creed/dogma, of thinking our religion is the best, our master is the best, our master is the most appropriate for these times&#039; i&#039;ve heard it from sooomany followers the same rhetoric
I can&#039;t help but be disappointed it happened to osho so quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear chetna<br />
&#8220;James, it is a bit childish to assume that we know each other&#8221;<br />
-I didn&#8217;t, later on in my letter i asked if this was true of you.<br />
&#8220;your ego is quite funny as it makes itself special by saying it was dropped! Dangerous move, my man, we have heard more than enough to sense the false! Have you heard that the most religious man is very humble and does not even know about his transformation?&#8221;<br />
-that means osho is not enlightened, according to your logic, because he declared again and again and again he had dropped his ego.<br />
&#8220;You know Osho? – That’s nice, say hello to him from me please!&#8221;<br />
-of course i don&#8217;t know osho, i&#8217;ve never met him, but that wouldn&#8217;t make difference, I don&#8217;t even know anything. my experience is, life is a mystery. From my experiences I can understand what osho meant. Otherwise I dismiss him until i experience it.<br />
&#8220;why do you care about sannyasins so much? Is your path a bit boring and lonely?&#8221;<br />
-if you don&#8217;t care about sannyasins, what are you doing posting here???<br />
Coming across osho gave me hope, for about 5 seconds, that it is possible to have a relgion without beliefs and believers. it has been proved wrong. Osho sannyasins are just like all other sannyasins. They blindly believe. They crisicise anyone for daring to suggest they actualy have meditational experiences. Despite Osho trying in every conceivable way to make sure his religion didn&#8217;t fall into these traps. How many times has he said &#8216;don&#8217;t believe me&#8217;?<br />
I fucking hate preists and I hate how they have taken over pune so quickly and i will speak against them. that&#8217;s why i&#8217;m posting. I know it&#8217;s pointless because pride is far far bigger but i have to say something. Maybe one day in a years time something will pop and at least one person said to you &#8216;you&#8217;ve fallen into the trap of believing, of idol worship, of following a creed/dogma, of thinking our religion is the best, our master is the best, our master is the most appropriate for these times&#8217; i&#8217;ve heard it from sooomany followers the same rhetoric<br />
I can&#8217;t help but be disappointed it happened to osho so quickly.</p>
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