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		<title>By: chetan</title>
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		<dc:creator>chetan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 07:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the resort they are removing each and everything through which one could have connected to Osho heart-to-heart. I still remember the days when &#039;Heart Dance&#039; in Budhha hall used to melt the frozenness of energies.Unless that energy gets thawed I can&#039;t imagine how one can move inwards!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the resort they are removing each and everything through which one could have connected to Osho heart-to-heart. I still remember the days when &#8216;Heart Dance&#8217; in Budhha hall used to melt the frozenness of energies.Unless that energy gets thawed I can&#8217;t imagine how one can move inwards!!</p>
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		<title>By: Swami Anand Chaitanya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swami Anand Chaitanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very nice artical swamiji. prem and pranam]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very nice artical swamiji. prem and pranam</p>
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		<title>By: Rishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pranam Keerti Sw Ji !

Lots of love to you. 

Rishi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pranam Keerti Sw Ji !</p>
<p>Lots of love to you. </p>
<p>Rishi</p>
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		<title>By: Konrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 03:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank, that was beautiful man....  thankyou for that perspective and the good laugh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, that was beautiful man&#8230;.  thankyou for that perspective and the good laugh</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[st paul spent his whole life writing letters,obsessed with `satan`and  warning people against `fornication`,laughter,women etc etc.

god zapped the one jewish guy he could find who had absolutely no sense of humour to start his biggest religion of all time.......

nice one god!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>st paul spent his whole life writing letters,obsessed with `satan`and  warning people against `fornication`,laughter,women etc etc.</p>
<p>god zapped the one jewish guy he could find who had absolutely no sense of humour to start his biggest religion of all time&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>nice one god!</p>
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		<title>By: Konrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Keerti, Alok,  Heraclitis, and anyone else interested,
It may or may not be true that none of you have experienced enlightened energy since Osho.    First you would have to be open to the idea that others since Osho can pass on this experierience to others or it probably won&#039;t happen.  In other words, your beliefs may be a big barrier to this.  A natural tendency  is for the ego  to place itself up on pedestal, and then claim that anyone who gives Satsang must be placing themselves on a pedestal.   This is funny.  And not everyone needs to attend Satsang to connect to source.  But how beautiful that so many are providing such beautiful energy.  Its easy to see who&#039;s authenitic giving Satsang and who&#039;s not.   
I am not of scholar of Saul alias Paul.  However, my simple interpretation of having read the story fifteen years ago, was a beautiful story of transformation by source......In a single energetic pulse of light.... source turned the biggest enemy of Jesus into his biggest supporter....  beautiful...  (Of course the mind can always construct a psychological explanation:  The scientists and pychologists are very busy reducing all spirtiual experience to brain chemicals and other mechanisms they feel more comfortable with....)   
Fortunately we don&#039;t have to be stuck in flatland...  but for most of us its not a single act of God that does it but  instead requires  our looking at our own ego protection mechanisms.... and removing masks.....  including the mask of  being a &quot;true believer&quot; in Osho or anything else...   On this point I&#039;m sure  Osho would agree!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Keerti, Alok,  Heraclitis, and anyone else interested,<br />
It may or may not be true that none of you have experienced enlightened energy since Osho.    First you would have to be open to the idea that others since Osho can pass on this experierience to others or it probably won&#8217;t happen.  In other words, your beliefs may be a big barrier to this.  A natural tendency  is for the ego  to place itself up on pedestal, and then claim that anyone who gives Satsang must be placing themselves on a pedestal.   This is funny.  And not everyone needs to attend Satsang to connect to source.  But how beautiful that so many are providing such beautiful energy.  Its easy to see who&#8217;s authenitic giving Satsang and who&#8217;s not.<br />
I am not of scholar of Saul alias Paul.  However, my simple interpretation of having read the story fifteen years ago, was a beautiful story of transformation by source&#8230;&#8230;In a single energetic pulse of light&#8230;. source turned the biggest enemy of Jesus into his biggest supporter&#8230;.  beautiful&#8230;  (Of course the mind can always construct a psychological explanation:  The scientists and pychologists are very busy reducing all spirtiual experience to brain chemicals and other mechanisms they feel more comfortable with&#8230;.)<br />
Fortunately we don&#8217;t have to be stuck in flatland&#8230;  but for most of us its not a single act of God that does it but  instead requires  our looking at our own ego protection mechanisms&#8230;. and removing masks&#8230;..  including the mask of  being a &#8220;true believer&#8221; in Osho or anything else&#8230;   On this point I&#8217;m sure  Osho would agree!</p>
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		<title>By: Alok john</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/285#comment-1458</link>
		<dc:creator>Alok john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 10:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I could see Osho&#039;s enlightenment in sannyasins returning to London from Pune.  

But I agree with Keerti; since Osho everyone I have heard of who claims enlightenment seem a fool or fake to me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I could see Osho&#8217;s enlightenment in sannyasins returning to London from Pune.  </p>
<p>But I agree with Keerti; since Osho everyone I have heard of who claims enlightenment seem a fool or fake to me</p>
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		<title>By: Swami Chaitanya Keerti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swami Chaitanya Keerti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 04:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Frank
I am not an enlightened person.
And there&#039;s no question of seeking any recognition.
Even though I am not enlightened, I could feel Osho&#039;s enlightenment in full glory when I met him for the first time on the evening of 4 Sep, 1971.
This is the mystery--an unenlightened person seeing the enlightened person. This is Darshan.
Such grace and glory I have never seen in any other person, except Osho, though many have claimed their enlightenment. 
There are quite a few blokes continuously asking for recognition that they are enlightened and they have been issuing certificates to others also.
I ridicule all those who pretend to be enlightened and playing some kind of Guru trips.
Those who read my editorials in the Hindi magazine Osho World are fully aware of it.
Love]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frank<br />
I am not an enlightened person.<br />
And there&#8217;s no question of seeking any recognition.<br />
Even though I am not enlightened, I could feel Osho&#8217;s enlightenment in full glory when I met him for the first time on the evening of 4 Sep, 1971.<br />
This is the mystery&#8211;an unenlightened person seeing the enlightened person. This is Darshan.<br />
Such grace and glory I have never seen in any other person, except Osho, though many have claimed their enlightenment.<br />
There are quite a few blokes continuously asking for recognition that they are enlightened and they have been issuing certificates to others also.<br />
I ridicule all those who pretend to be enlightened and playing some kind of Guru trips.<br />
Those who read my editorials in the Hindi magazine Osho World are fully aware of it.<br />
Love</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/285#comment-1453</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi keerti,
if unelightened people cannot recognise enlightened people,then 
how do unenlightened people recognise enlightened people?

i guess you need a bit of luck?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi keerti,<br />
if unelightened people cannot recognise enlightened people,then<br />
how do unenlightened people recognise enlightened people?</p>
<p>i guess you need a bit of luck?</p>
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		<title>By: Swami Chaitanya Keerti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swami Chaitanya Keerti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though I don&#039;t know who Heraclitus is ( May be I will know if I see his photo) but I am enjoying the debate started by him about me and people like. I find it quite hilarious thati am compared with St. Paul. I donot know St. Paul, so I checked into Osho CD-Rom, and Osho talks about him as the most dangerous politician.

&quot;Who founded Christianity? A very strange man -- it has nothing to do with Jesus. His name was Saul, and he was very much against Jesus and against Jesus&#039; teachings. He lived far away from Jerusalem. When he heard many rumors reaching there that the messiah has come, and he will redeem the world -- and he was a very orthodox Jew.... So he started moving towards Jerusalem, to kill this man if he finds him, and to destroy all his important apostles, as he calls them, and finish this whole thing in the beginning; otherwise later on it will become a difficulty, it will become too big. And he was continuously thinking how to destroy Jesus, how to destroy these apostles -- Matthew, Luke, Thomas, etcetera. His mind was thinking only one thing, focused on one thing: How to destroy these people and Jesus? And it happens sometimes when you are so obsessed with one idea, you can come to such extreme obsession that it turns around, one hundred and eighty degrees. That is a psychological phenomenon, it happens every day.
Saul, walking in the hot sun, in the dust, towards Jerusalem, only one thought moving in his mind... the hot sun... and one thought: how to destroy, how to destroy.... Suddenly he saw Jesus in the sky! That was just a projection of a madman obsessed with a certain idea. And when he saw Jesus&#039; figure appearing, naturally he was dumb. He fell on the ground, asked to be forgiven, to be just cut off from his old life, and become converted. Now he was converted, because Jesus had appeared in the sky. He became Paul; from Saul he changed his name to Paul. This man Paul, this maniac, this murderous type of person, is the founder of Christianity.
It is Paul who founded Christianity. He was the first pope. That&#039;s why you will find many popes, when they become pope, using Paul&#039;s name in their name. That is the most glorious name, the first founder. So you will find many popes... somebody is John Paul, somebody is something else, but they use Paul, because Paul is the most glorious person in their history. In fact they are not connected with Jesus.
And this Paul who was going to kill Jesus and his friends, now turned towards the enemies of Christianity. He declared that Christ would come again -- just the old Jew he was, his whole life waiting for the messiah, although now he has become a Christian.... But you can change only the clothes, you cannot change those ideas so easily. Now he projects the whole philosophy, and he says Christ will come again, and he will redeem the world. This time he could not do it, because Jews crucified him, betrayed him. But now when he comes he will find his own people, Christians, who will support him in every possible way, and help him to redeem the suffering of the whole world, and to transform everything that is ugly into a beautiful phenomenon.&quot;

Then as a fun, I started looking about what Osho says about me or to me. There were 14 references, so I picked up the last one in the last book of Osho. It was about a debate the readers of certain newspapers in Madhya Pradesh were having about Osho. Here&#039;s the quote: 

&quot;But the difficulty is that the lower, the masses who have never known anything of the higher -- they decide things. They decide who is enlightened, who is not enlightened. It is so hilarious....

One newspaper from Indore has written an editorial, and asked its readers to vote whether I am enlightened or not. So I have informed Chaitanya Keerti to write to them, &quot;How many of your readers are enlightened? And first you should think about yourself: Are you enlightened? Can you recognize an enlightened person without being enlightened?&quot; But this kind of stupidity goes on and on.
The people who had the experience were naturally respected by the younger generation, because they knew all the parts of life; they had been through all the stages, and they had passed beyond. Now they have become again innocent like a child; they are getting ready to enter again into existence.&quot;
Osho: Zen Manifesto # 1

This is the job of communicating with media that Osho gave me, and I continue doing that, I enjoy it. And conducting meditation camps is not a guru  trip for me. 
I do not put myself on any pedestal, holier than thou etc. I like travelling and meeting my fellow travellers anywhere. 
Love to Heraclitus, I may meet him one day on my travels to UK]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I don&#8217;t know who Heraclitus is ( May be I will know if I see his photo) but I am enjoying the debate started by him about me and people like. I find it quite hilarious thati am compared with St. Paul. I donot know St. Paul, so I checked into Osho CD-Rom, and Osho talks about him as the most dangerous politician.</p>
<p>&#8220;Who founded Christianity? A very strange man &#8212; it has nothing to do with Jesus. His name was Saul, and he was very much against Jesus and against Jesus&#8217; teachings. He lived far away from Jerusalem. When he heard many rumors reaching there that the messiah has come, and he will redeem the world &#8212; and he was a very orthodox Jew&#8230;. So he started moving towards Jerusalem, to kill this man if he finds him, and to destroy all his important apostles, as he calls them, and finish this whole thing in the beginning; otherwise later on it will become a difficulty, it will become too big. And he was continuously thinking how to destroy Jesus, how to destroy these apostles &#8212; Matthew, Luke, Thomas, etcetera. His mind was thinking only one thing, focused on one thing: How to destroy these people and Jesus? And it happens sometimes when you are so obsessed with one idea, you can come to such extreme obsession that it turns around, one hundred and eighty degrees. That is a psychological phenomenon, it happens every day.<br />
Saul, walking in the hot sun, in the dust, towards Jerusalem, only one thought moving in his mind&#8230; the hot sun&#8230; and one thought: how to destroy, how to destroy&#8230;. Suddenly he saw Jesus in the sky! That was just a projection of a madman obsessed with a certain idea. And when he saw Jesus&#8217; figure appearing, naturally he was dumb. He fell on the ground, asked to be forgiven, to be just cut off from his old life, and become converted. Now he was converted, because Jesus had appeared in the sky. He became Paul; from Saul he changed his name to Paul. This man Paul, this maniac, this murderous type of person, is the founder of Christianity.<br />
It is Paul who founded Christianity. He was the first pope. That&#8217;s why you will find many popes, when they become pope, using Paul&#8217;s name in their name. That is the most glorious name, the first founder. So you will find many popes&#8230; somebody is John Paul, somebody is something else, but they use Paul, because Paul is the most glorious person in their history. In fact they are not connected with Jesus.<br />
And this Paul who was going to kill Jesus and his friends, now turned towards the enemies of Christianity. He declared that Christ would come again &#8212; just the old Jew he was, his whole life waiting for the messiah, although now he has become a Christian&#8230;. But you can change only the clothes, you cannot change those ideas so easily. Now he projects the whole philosophy, and he says Christ will come again, and he will redeem the world. This time he could not do it, because Jews crucified him, betrayed him. But now when he comes he will find his own people, Christians, who will support him in every possible way, and help him to redeem the suffering of the whole world, and to transform everything that is ugly into a beautiful phenomenon.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then as a fun, I started looking about what Osho says about me or to me. There were 14 references, so I picked up the last one in the last book of Osho. It was about a debate the readers of certain newspapers in Madhya Pradesh were having about Osho. Here&#8217;s the quote: </p>
<p>&#8220;But the difficulty is that the lower, the masses who have never known anything of the higher &#8212; they decide things. They decide who is enlightened, who is not enlightened. It is so hilarious&#8230;.</p>
<p>One newspaper from Indore has written an editorial, and asked its readers to vote whether I am enlightened or not. So I have informed Chaitanya Keerti to write to them, &#8220;How many of your readers are enlightened? And first you should think about yourself: Are you enlightened? Can you recognize an enlightened person without being enlightened?&#8221; But this kind of stupidity goes on and on.<br />
The people who had the experience were naturally respected by the younger generation, because they knew all the parts of life; they had been through all the stages, and they had passed beyond. Now they have become again innocent like a child; they are getting ready to enter again into existence.&#8221;<br />
Osho: Zen Manifesto # 1</p>
<p>This is the job of communicating with media that Osho gave me, and I continue doing that, I enjoy it. And conducting meditation camps is not a guru  trip for me.<br />
I do not put myself on any pedestal, holier than thou etc. I like travelling and meeting my fellow travellers anywhere.<br />
Love to Heraclitus, I may meet him one day on my travels to UK</p>
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