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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great example of Osho playing the buffoon---displaying behaviour that is ridiculous but amusing.
It was definitely ridiculous and it is still amusing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great example of Osho playing the buffoon&#8212;displaying behaviour that is ridiculous but amusing.<br />
It was definitely ridiculous and it is still amusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2829#comment-43046</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mini, it might be good for you to write about subjects that you at least know a little about. Your above comment is totally absurd and based on nothing other than ignorance...in other words, you don&#039;t have a clue what you are talking about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mini, it might be good for you to write about subjects that you at least know a little about. Your above comment is totally absurd and based on nothing other than ignorance&#8230;in other words, you don&#8217;t have a clue what you are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Parmartha</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2829#comment-43043</link>
		<dc:creator>Parmartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People who I knew in early Poona one,  knew a guy called Ram. I never knew him personally, but for example Lokesh seemed to know him well. At one point Osho declared he was enlightened - or seemed too. As he was young and English it seemed unlikely.  A few weeks later someone asked this question and below is Osho&#039;s reply. Anyone know what happened to Ram?!  

Question: 
 One says you told Ram he is enlightened – in the sense of realized. Another says you had both your tongues in both your cheeks. Ram says you were joking and that I should ask you. I tell myself it is really none of my business, but still, is he? Has he?
Osho replied
&quot;If he has understood that I was joking, then he must be enlightened.
Enough for today.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who I knew in early Poona one,  knew a guy called Ram. I never knew him personally, but for example Lokesh seemed to know him well. At one point Osho declared he was enlightened &#8211; or seemed too. As he was young and English it seemed unlikely.  A few weeks later someone asked this question and below is Osho&#8217;s reply. Anyone know what happened to Ram?!  </p>
<p>Question:<br />
 One says you told Ram he is enlightened – in the sense of realized. Another says you had both your tongues in both your cheeks. Ram says you were joking and that I should ask you. I tell myself it is really none of my business, but still, is he? Has he?<br />
Osho replied<br />
&#8220;If he has understood that I was joking, then he must be enlightened.<br />
Enough for today.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bodhi vartan</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2829#comment-43017</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhi vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fresch says:
&gt;&gt; But, I have also read everything osho says about it. And he really explained hoo is for enquiry – and that is coming from Maharsi’s ”Who am I”

A MONK SAID, ”BECAUSE HE DISTINGUISHES THINGS BADLY, IT MEANS HE CAN’T SEE.”

HOFUKU SAID, ”KWATZ!” to the monk who was giving this answer – because he divides things into good and bad, into black and white, into dead and alive. He cannot see what those persons are doing.

Hofuku shouted the Zen KWATZ! which is equivalent to the stick hitting your head. Because the master cannot always carry the stick, they found an equivalent. And certainly when a Zen monk or master shouts ”Kwatz!” it hits harder than any stick can. It keeps you utterly silent – ”What happened? Why has he started shouting in a strange way, a sound which means nothing?” But it can wake you. Any sound, meaningless or meaningful, can wake you up.

The Zen experience is that certain sounds reach into certain centers of your being. That is the experience of all the mystics of the world. For example, Sufis have found the sound HOO. If you repeat ”Hoo” continuously, you will find that the center of your life, just two inches below your navel, is hit again and again. Soon there will be sparks coming out of your life center.

In this country, they have found OM – which is mild, in accordance with the character of the people who have lived in this country. It does not hit very hard, but it pushes. ”Om, Om,” again and again – it pushes you into a different space that is not mind.

Zen has found KWATZ – it is like their character, their training, their samuraihood. They are warriors. ”Kwatz!” – it hits exactly the same center as ”Hoo.” When you greet each other with ”Yaa-Hoo,” you are hitting the same center.

(end of quote) Zen - The Solitary Bird (Chapter 14) 1988

Please show me where Osho says that the Hoo is a Who?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresch says:<br />
&gt;&gt; But, I have also read everything osho says about it. And he really explained hoo is for enquiry – and that is coming from Maharsi’s ”Who am I”</p>
<p>A MONK SAID, ”BECAUSE HE DISTINGUISHES THINGS BADLY, IT MEANS HE CAN’T SEE.”</p>
<p>HOFUKU SAID, ”KWATZ!” to the monk who was giving this answer – because he divides things into good and bad, into black and white, into dead and alive. He cannot see what those persons are doing.</p>
<p>Hofuku shouted the Zen KWATZ! which is equivalent to the stick hitting your head. Because the master cannot always carry the stick, they found an equivalent. And certainly when a Zen monk or master shouts ”Kwatz!” it hits harder than any stick can. It keeps you utterly silent – ”What happened? Why has he started shouting in a strange way, a sound which means nothing?” But it can wake you. Any sound, meaningless or meaningful, can wake you up.</p>
<p>The Zen experience is that certain sounds reach into certain centers of your being. That is the experience of all the mystics of the world. For example, Sufis have found the sound HOO. If you repeat ”Hoo” continuously, you will find that the center of your life, just two inches below your navel, is hit again and again. Soon there will be sparks coming out of your life center.</p>
<p>In this country, they have found OM – which is mild, in accordance with the character of the people who have lived in this country. It does not hit very hard, but it pushes. ”Om, Om,” again and again – it pushes you into a different space that is not mind.</p>
<p>Zen has found KWATZ – it is like their character, their training, their samuraihood. They are warriors. ”Kwatz!” – it hits exactly the same center as ”Hoo.” When you greet each other with ”Yaa-Hoo,” you are hitting the same center.</p>
<p>(end of quote) Zen &#8211; The Solitary Bird (Chapter 14) 1988</p>
<p>Please show me where Osho says that the Hoo is a Who?</p>
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		<title>By: Fresch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fresch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I have been doing dynamic for  last 5 years 8-10 months a year 2-5 times a week, leading it (same time doing it my self), but surely for doing it for my self in India and many European countries in meditations and groups. Other than just getting my self there to do it ,I try not to force it (for example I might not jump so much or I might just sit down sometimes in silence stage), I tell you this so I am not interested being achiever there in that sense.
But, I have also read everything osho says about it.  And he really explained hoo is for enquiry – and that is coming from Maharsi’s ”Who am I”. Then the stop – freeze, is form Gurdijeff’s exercise. However, osho made his own original revelatory meditation out of it. pls do go to the source, osho, do not listen middleman like me or swami R.
Also, what I remember reading from him dynamic is same kind of process as Samadhi: first internal chaos (chaotic breathing preparing for that) catharsis, enquiry…then sudden stop. And finally celebrating life. Like doing mini enlightenments every morning. Remember these are my words. I do not bother to look for exact quotes for you, anybody interested, and you nee to do it your selves. I feel I have contributed enough for swami R’s flock, no need to repeat anything, you can just read again what people have shared with you here. I feel like moving on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have been doing dynamic for  last 5 years 8-10 months a year 2-5 times a week, leading it (same time doing it my self), but surely for doing it for my self in India and many European countries in meditations and groups. Other than just getting my self there to do it ,I try not to force it (for example I might not jump so much or I might just sit down sometimes in silence stage), I tell you this so I am not interested being achiever there in that sense.<br />
But, I have also read everything osho says about it.  And he really explained hoo is for enquiry – and that is coming from Maharsi’s ”Who am I”. Then the stop – freeze, is form Gurdijeff’s exercise. However, osho made his own original revelatory meditation out of it. pls do go to the source, osho, do not listen middleman like me or swami R.<br />
Also, what I remember reading from him dynamic is same kind of process as Samadhi: first internal chaos (chaotic breathing preparing for that) catharsis, enquiry…then sudden stop. And finally celebrating life. Like doing mini enlightenments every morning. Remember these are my words. I do not bother to look for exact quotes for you, anybody interested, and you nee to do it your selves. I feel I have contributed enough for swami R’s flock, no need to repeat anything, you can just read again what people have shared with you here. I feel like moving on.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2829#comment-42897</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;It works best for newcomers because they are carrying the most shit but also it is harder for them to get total. So there is a trade off.&#039;

Nonsense.
Newcomers throw themselves in, in innocence, without expectations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;It works best for newcomers because they are carrying the most shit but also it is harder for them to get total. So there is a trade off.&#8217;</p>
<p>Nonsense.<br />
Newcomers throw themselves in, in innocence, without expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: bodhi vartan</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2829#comment-42891</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhi vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The great advantage with something like the Dynamic is that it works whether you know the psycho-physical parameters, or not.

I reckon that a large percentage of the Pune1 participants didn&#039;t really know/understand what was happening to them, and that is why even today they have difficulty explaining themselves. Osho&#039;s Active Meditations were revolutionary then and they are still revolutionary today. They just need to be explained properly. 

Dynamic done totally is in Lokesh&#039;s words a Mind Bomb. If you really want to bomb your mind that is. Hyperventilation, that is when you have sucked too much carbon dioxide out of the system (than the system can generate), is a known technique of brainwashing. Bhastrika is similar but not identical to Osho&#039;s technique.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great advantage with something like the Dynamic is that it works whether you know the psycho-physical parameters, or not.</p>
<p>I reckon that a large percentage of the Pune1 participants didn&#8217;t really know/understand what was happening to them, and that is why even today they have difficulty explaining themselves. Osho&#8217;s Active Meditations were revolutionary then and they are still revolutionary today. They just need to be explained properly. </p>
<p>Dynamic done totally is in Lokesh&#8217;s words a Mind Bomb. If you really want to bomb your mind that is. Hyperventilation, that is when you have sucked too much carbon dioxide out of the system (than the system can generate), is a known technique of brainwashing. Bhastrika is similar but not identical to Osho&#8217;s technique.</p>
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		<title>By: bodhi vartan</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2829#comment-42890</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhi vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It works best for newcomers because they are carrying the most shit but also it is harder for them to get total. So there is a trade off.

There is confusion because not the whole of the Dynamic exercise is a meditation. The first three stages are just a build up to the meditation. The meditation begins at the first &quot;freeze&quot;. 

The whole of Osho&#039;s (physical) work was to raise &quot;the energy&quot; and then &quot;freeze it&quot; and &quot;watch it&quot;. Teaching me to watch energy has been Osho&#039;s greatest lesson to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It works best for newcomers because they are carrying the most shit but also it is harder for them to get total. So there is a trade off.</p>
<p>There is confusion because not the whole of the Dynamic exercise is a meditation. The first three stages are just a build up to the meditation. The meditation begins at the first &#8220;freeze&#8221;. </p>
<p>The whole of Osho&#8217;s (physical) work was to raise &#8220;the energy&#8221; and then &#8220;freeze it&#8221; and &#8220;watch it&#8221;. Teaching me to watch energy has been Osho&#8217;s greatest lesson to me.</p>
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		<title>By: bodhi vartan</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2829#comment-42889</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhi vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt; You’ll be laughing on the other side of your faces.

That must be the weirdest phrase in the English language. I remember once trying to translate it into greek. 

Which is the other side of the face? 

And the fact that it is generally directed threateningly at children makes it even weirder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; You’ll be laughing on the other side of your faces.</p>
<p>That must be the weirdest phrase in the English language. I remember once trying to translate it into greek. </p>
<p>Which is the other side of the face? </p>
<p>And the fact that it is generally directed threateningly at children makes it even weirder.</p>
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		<title>By: swami satyam dhyanraj</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2829#comment-42888</link>
		<dc:creator>swami satyam dhyanraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 21:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[respect vartan - now i see you have the intelligence not to dismiss something out of hand without looking]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>respect vartan &#8211; now i see you have the intelligence not to dismiss something out of hand without looking</p>
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