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	<title>Comments on: When I am working on your soul do not disturb me &#8211; Osho</title>
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		<title>By: bodhi vartan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bodhi vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come back when you are you. I thought you weren&#039;t going to come back to the board because it is silly. And you were going to meditate about us shiting in our shoes and stuff, what happened? 

You can use sillyness as a meditation ... trust me, it&#039;s much more fun meditating with others than doing it alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come back when you are you. I thought you weren&#8217;t going to come back to the board because it is silly. And you were going to meditate about us shiting in our shoes and stuff, what happened? </p>
<p>You can use sillyness as a meditation &#8230; trust me, it&#8217;s much more fun meditating with others than doing it alone.</p>
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		<title>By: bodhi vartan</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2814#comment-42380</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhi vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YS, change your mind, and keep the change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YS, change your mind, and keep the change.</p>
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		<title>By: bapudi</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2814#comment-42300</link>
		<dc:creator>bapudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a good thing he failed, otherwise we might end up worshipping him! And arguing about him on chat boards. Wait....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good thing he failed, otherwise we might end up worshipping him! And arguing about him on chat boards. Wait&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bapudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>bapudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My mind is so loud, most people don&#039;t realize that it&#039;s not really me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mind is so loud, most people don&#8217;t realize that it&#8217;s not really me.</p>
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		<title>By: bapudi</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2814#comment-42295</link>
		<dc:creator>bapudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha, universal truth, that&#039;s a good one. Truth is specific and personal, not universal. Or is it? I don&#039;t really know, but I sound important saying it, don&#039;t I? 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, universal truth, that&#8217;s a good one. Truth is specific and personal, not universal. Or is it? I don&#8217;t really know, but I sound important saying it, don&#8217;t I? </p>
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		<title>By: bapudi</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2814#comment-42293</link>
		<dc:creator>bapudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lokesh, I like what you have written here. Osho was playing a very funny joke on everyone. He was trying to move people out of their minds and into the moment. The things he said weren&#039;t discussions or teachings, they were an attempt to trip up your mind so that you could stop identifying with your thoughts. Much of what he said, I believe, he said to create an effect in people, not as a rock-hard &quot;truth&quot; to be quoted and passed down forever. It was a performance, and a performer does not invite the audience to perform! 

And yes, as soon as you get to the point where you create that gap between yourself as a witness and your mind, Osho is no longer necessary, except just because he is delightful. Yes, he was human, he made mistakes, he had an ego. If you don&#039;t think he&#039;s funny, if you don&#039;t love his fragrance, why spend any time thinking of him at all? I think he would be the first to agree. The whole edifice he constructed was theater, it was a show, because people are asleep and without a show they don&#039;t notice anything.

Furthermore, Osho gave everyone a great gift by messing up in Oregon. He showed himself to be human, so that we could not worship him as a god. In the end, being attached to Osho is just another trap. Whether this was his intention or not is just another language game. The universe is smarter than all of us, including Osho.

I&#039;m probably not going to log into this site again, because it seems sort of silly. I will meditate instead. If you want to talk to me, that&#039;s welcome and you can email me at cinerobert at gmail dot com. 

In the mean time, everyone please take a giant shit into your pants. It will make you feel so much less tense. Especially if it runs down your leg into your shoe. Then your shoes will be squishy and will smell of shit, and you might forget to argue about Osho for awhile and live instead!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lokesh, I like what you have written here. Osho was playing a very funny joke on everyone. He was trying to move people out of their minds and into the moment. The things he said weren&#8217;t discussions or teachings, they were an attempt to trip up your mind so that you could stop identifying with your thoughts. Much of what he said, I believe, he said to create an effect in people, not as a rock-hard &#8220;truth&#8221; to be quoted and passed down forever. It was a performance, and a performer does not invite the audience to perform! </p>
<p>And yes, as soon as you get to the point where you create that gap between yourself as a witness and your mind, Osho is no longer necessary, except just because he is delightful. Yes, he was human, he made mistakes, he had an ego. If you don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s funny, if you don&#8217;t love his fragrance, why spend any time thinking of him at all? I think he would be the first to agree. The whole edifice he constructed was theater, it was a show, because people are asleep and without a show they don&#8217;t notice anything.</p>
<p>Furthermore, Osho gave everyone a great gift by messing up in Oregon. He showed himself to be human, so that we could not worship him as a god. In the end, being attached to Osho is just another trap. Whether this was his intention or not is just another language game. The universe is smarter than all of us, including Osho.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m probably not going to log into this site again, because it seems sort of silly. I will meditate instead. If you want to talk to me, that&#8217;s welcome and you can email me at cinerobert at gmail dot com. </p>
<p>In the mean time, everyone please take a giant shit into your pants. It will make you feel so much less tense. Especially if it runs down your leg into your shoe. Then your shoes will be squishy and will smell of shit, and you might forget to argue about Osho for awhile and live instead!</p>
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		<title>By: Young sannyasin</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2814#comment-42290</link>
		<dc:creator>Young sannyasin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a master have the right to give order to the disciple,and the disciple has to follow,since volountarly he had give authority on him to his master.
There are certain things that we are not able to see about ourself,therefore someone else on the out side who have better view than us is necessary.Necessary is also some degree of obbedience and even submission to the will of the master,because usually when certain kind of things about ourself tend to com out,we don&#039;t like it and we tend to escape,or to put blame on sombody/something outside.
Problem arise when the master start to make mistake.Yes the Master sometime make mistake,please allow this simple fact.
A self-proclamed enlightened master like Osho,never had a master for him self(or at least this is what he say the most),so this mean,while he was preaching discipline for his neo-sanyasin,he probably at some point failed on disciplining himself.
Osho was a human being.He made mistakes.When his power over thousands of rich educated westerners start to become famous around the world he probably get cheated from his own ego.
And yes,it was a lesson,it was basically the best rappresentation of the religious mind of humanity,on how every pedestall soon or late will go down in the mud.
The only thing that can save us is awarness.To be counscious of this mechanism,that he have described and explained so well,when talking about the other religions,cult leader,politicians,etc......but he failed on apply the same on himself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a master have the right to give order to the disciple,and the disciple has to follow,since volountarly he had give authority on him to his master.<br />
There are certain things that we are not able to see about ourself,therefore someone else on the out side who have better view than us is necessary.Necessary is also some degree of obbedience and even submission to the will of the master,because usually when certain kind of things about ourself tend to com out,we don&#8217;t like it and we tend to escape,or to put blame on sombody/something outside.<br />
Problem arise when the master start to make mistake.Yes the Master sometime make mistake,please allow this simple fact.<br />
A self-proclamed enlightened master like Osho,never had a master for him self(or at least this is what he say the most),so this mean,while he was preaching discipline for his neo-sanyasin,he probably at some point failed on disciplining himself.<br />
Osho was a human being.He made mistakes.When his power over thousands of rich educated westerners start to become famous around the world he probably get cheated from his own ego.<br />
And yes,it was a lesson,it was basically the best rappresentation of the religious mind of humanity,on how every pedestall soon or late will go down in the mud.<br />
The only thing that can save us is awarness.To be counscious of this mechanism,that he have described and explained so well,when talking about the other religions,cult leader,politicians,etc&#8230;&#8230;but he failed on apply the same on himself.</p>
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		<title>By: dominic</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2814#comment-42222</link>
		<dc:creator>dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jul 2013 00:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zoomadhi for the animals. 
Snowtori for the froZen few.
Nearfarna for the confused.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoomadhi for the animals.<br />
Snowtori for the froZen few.<br />
Nearfarna for the confused.</p>
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		<title>By: bodhi vartan</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2814#comment-42155</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhi vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Parmartha says: 
&gt;&gt; Speaking personally I feel that &quot;zen&quot; autocracy was of another age, over one thousand years ago. 

I have recently heard of quasi-religious quasi-martial-art ‘temples’ in the far east practicing extreme regimes today and with what I see around, it appears that more ppl seem prefer structures, to freedom (probably ideas just go round and round). 

&gt;&gt; I am also not sure what he was trying to do with Devageet in replicating such old fashioned zen – but it is not for me.

It think it was old-fashioned wind-up on Osho’s part. Osho spoke a lot of bollocks to a lot people. You just need to know what is for you. For me his last and biggest wind-up on us (and Shantam) is Jayesh. The longer I look at Jayesh the more I am beginning to consider the possibility that Sheela (after all) might have been a wind-up on us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parmartha says:<br />
&gt;&gt; Speaking personally I feel that &#8220;zen&#8221; autocracy was of another age, over one thousand years ago. </p>
<p>I have recently heard of quasi-religious quasi-martial-art ‘temples’ in the far east practicing extreme regimes today and with what I see around, it appears that more ppl seem prefer structures, to freedom (probably ideas just go round and round). </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; I am also not sure what he was trying to do with Devageet in replicating such old fashioned zen – but it is not for me.</p>
<p>It think it was old-fashioned wind-up on Osho’s part. Osho spoke a lot of bollocks to a lot people. You just need to know what is for you. For me his last and biggest wind-up on us (and Shantam) is Jayesh. The longer I look at Jayesh the more I am beginning to consider the possibility that Sheela (after all) might have been a wind-up on us.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2814#comment-42152</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[. . . . . if emphasis on ZEN  . . . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . . . if emphasis on ZEN  . . . . .</p>
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