Comments on: The Psychology of the Follower

By: Arpana

Arpana — Sun, 23 Jun 2013 08:06:09 +0000

By: bodhi vartan

bodhi vartan — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 23:18:36 +0000

Parmartha says:
>> But it is as well to note this rather psychopathic statement by Sheela

Or amphetamin rantings …

By: bodhi vartan

bodhi vartan — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 23:07:49 +0000

You are more likely to be correct than me as I am picking most of my info from the web. Below is Osho’s version. Interesting detail regarding payment …

“And we had nothing—just thirty semi-automatic guns, which are available in America to any citizen. These belonged to the police force of the commune, which was paid by the American government because the police force was part of the American police force, even though all the people were sannyasins who had taken the police training. So they were afraid that “Although the police force is ours, it is going to fight for the commune, not for us.”

http://www.oshoworld.com/biography/innercontent.asp?FileName=biography8/08-22-conspiracy.txt

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 21:18:52 +0000

Fact is loud and clear, Present trustees of Osho´s work are using the same tacts like Sheela´s mind. Using Osho´s thumb impression on the blank papers.
and I am sure, if some how chairman of Osho management is dethroned(chance of that happening is bit more than zero), hundreds of group leaders therapists and old timers will pour their insights out at various Osho publications; We had always the gut feeling, it was all obvious in black and white….
History is a proof, boot lickers are the ones who use the boots to kick the broken statues of great men and women!

By: Arpana

Arpana — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:35:01 +0000

I recall a conversation with a ma. (The Ma was OK. She was just having a rat bag day, and as far as I know felt well towards me for speaking out. Eventually anyway. ) who had been screeching at me to surrender, and me snarling back, submission and surrender are not the same thing.

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:28:44 +0000

Anther feature of psychopathic leadership is excommunication.
Michael Barnett also known as Anand Somendra was a very well known therapy group leader in 1982 and arguably brought a lot of sannyasins to Osho in the preceding six years. On the Ranch that year, Barnett had refused to follow the schedule arranged for him by “The Dowager Duchesses,” as he called the collection of women running the Ranch. Good for him!
Then after his mala was taken away, sannyasin friends treated him as if he were invisible. An April 1983 newsletter from Sahajam Rajneesh Meditation Center in Perth, Australia, spelled out the then movement’s policy in such cases.
“Bhagwan (Osho) recently said that He has been waiting for a few people, who had been hanging around without growing at all, to drop sannyas of their own accord…From now on all these people will be known as ‘the late Swami’ or ‘the late Ma’ because as far as sannyas is concerned, they are dead. Please don’t contact these ghosts and allow them to exploit you; and they will contact you because their whole purpose and interest is exploitation.”
I myself dont believe that Osho composed such edicts, but that they were written by Sheela and her gang and simply said to be in Osho’s name.

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:17:51 +0000

Part of my purpose Shantam is not to nail Sheela alone, but her gang, and also those of us who somehow got duped at different levels to go along with her. I also want people to at least give credence, based on such statements, still in the public domain, so that anyone with the copy of the Rajneesh Times of July, 1984 can see how crazy she had become by that time.
It is surprising how many people in and outside of sannyas basically see Sheela as a sort of complicated fall guy and that Osho was the real perpetrator. As you know I dont share that view, I think he may have been sort of asleep, and somehow switched off, but there are clear examples, even early in the Ranch time when his wishes were overridden by Sheela. For example on the need to employ a security company with guns in 1982 which he did not want.

By: dominic

dominic — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 17:27:36 +0000

Gassho. “No approval or disapproval” of course.
It is good to look in the rear view mirror every now and again, and swap notes. And then…..Ah This!

By: dominic

dominic — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 15:45:38 +0000

Would have sounded good in iambic pentameter Shakespeak on a stage. Doubt she would have offered herself as a squashed tomato. After seeing Sheela and the ranch I returned my mala.
She was one crazee mofo. Not a device but irresponsibility on the part of the CEO, and he was pisssssed with his protegee.
A mini-series of it like the borgias would be nice.

By: Arpana

Arpana — Sat, 22 Jun 2013 15:00:26 +0000

I experienced the mala as a millstone round my neck, but decided to stick with it till I didn’t, and succeeded in that endeavour.