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		<title>By: Ma Gyan Darshana</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/241#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>Ma Gyan Darshana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ESTUDIO LLONA &amp; BUSTAMANTE
ABOGADOS


Alvaro Llona Bernal
Manuel Bustamante Olivares
Raúl Villavicencio Pedraza
Juan Prado Bustamante
Carlos Herbozo Perez-Costa
Ursula Cortés Gutiérrez
Rómulo Morales Hervias
Lus F- Alfaro Garath
David Zamora Reátegui
Raúl Villavicencio Bedoya
Ursula Herbozo Ibáñez
Ana Vidal Stiegler
CARTA NOTARIAL

Lima, April 20, 2009

María Emilia Jaramillo Ruiz
(Also known as Ma Gyan Darshana)
Calle Juan Fanning N° 304
Miraflores, Lima
Perú
Pone: +51 1 445-5375
Mobile: 996-899-889
emilia_jaramillo@hotmail.com
oshogyandarshana@gmail.com

Re: Copyright infringement and ilegal distribution of books

Dear María Emilia Jaramillo Ruiz,

Our law firm represents OSHO International Foundation, Switzeland and a number of licensees for the works of Osho in Spanish languaje.

Osho International Foundation has found and documented in detail your illegal activities to distribute on a massive scale, digital translation of works by Osho in the Spanish language, on several internet sites including your own blog. The illegal copies carry your name and are distributed in your name on different web site accounts like www.scrib.com

As such you are in serious brench of international and national copyright law.
You are no doubt aware that Perú is a signatory to the international Copyrights conventions which protect works by authors, including Osho.

The works you illegal distribute are copyrighted by Osho International Foundation, Switzeland and the Spanish translation are the copyrights of a number os Spanish publishers who hold exclusive licenses for these works and have paid for these translations.

These publishers include: Random House Mondadori (and several of their subsidiaries and prints), Distribuciones Alfaomega, Editorial Kairos, Editorial Edaf, and others.

The foundation and publishers will through our legal representation pursue this matter to the greatest extent allowed by law, including recovery of damages and our legal fees.

In the alternative we give you the option to withdraw, remove and delete for all time, these illegal files from any internet systems where you have placed them and to sign a legal settlement agreement with Osho International Foundation and the Spanish publishers.

You have one week from receipt of this letter to remove the illegal files from all internet system and to sign a settlement agreement.

RAÚL VILLAVICENCIO BEDOYA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ESTUDIO LLONA &amp; BUSTAMANTE<br />
ABOGADOS</p>
<p>Alvaro Llona Bernal<br />
Manuel Bustamante Olivares<br />
Raúl Villavicencio Pedraza<br />
Juan Prado Bustamante<br />
Carlos Herbozo Perez-Costa<br />
Ursula Cortés Gutiérrez<br />
Rómulo Morales Hervias<br />
Lus F- Alfaro Garath<br />
David Zamora Reátegui<br />
Raúl Villavicencio Bedoya<br />
Ursula Herbozo Ibáñez<br />
Ana Vidal Stiegler<br />
CARTA NOTARIAL</p>
<p>Lima, April 20, 2009</p>
<p>María Emilia Jaramillo Ruiz<br />
(Also known as Ma Gyan Darshana)<br />
Calle Juan Fanning N° 304<br />
Miraflores, Lima<br />
Perú<br />
Pone: +51 1 445-5375<br />
Mobile: 996-899-889<br />
<a href="mailto:emilia_jaramillo@hotmail.com">emilia_jaramillo@hotmail.com</a><br />
<a href="mailto:oshogyandarshana@gmail.com">oshogyandarshana@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Re: Copyright infringement and ilegal distribution of books</p>
<p>Dear María Emilia Jaramillo Ruiz,</p>
<p>Our law firm represents OSHO International Foundation, Switzeland and a number of licensees for the works of Osho in Spanish languaje.</p>
<p>Osho International Foundation has found and documented in detail your illegal activities to distribute on a massive scale, digital translation of works by Osho in the Spanish language, on several internet sites including your own blog. The illegal copies carry your name and are distributed in your name on different web site accounts like <a href="http://www.scrib.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.scrib.com</a></p>
<p>As such you are in serious brench of international and national copyright law.<br />
You are no doubt aware that Perú is a signatory to the international Copyrights conventions which protect works by authors, including Osho.</p>
<p>The works you illegal distribute are copyrighted by Osho International Foundation, Switzeland and the Spanish translation are the copyrights of a number os Spanish publishers who hold exclusive licenses for these works and have paid for these translations.</p>
<p>These publishers include: Random House Mondadori (and several of their subsidiaries and prints), Distribuciones Alfaomega, Editorial Kairos, Editorial Edaf, and others.</p>
<p>The foundation and publishers will through our legal representation pursue this matter to the greatest extent allowed by law, including recovery of damages and our legal fees.</p>
<p>In the alternative we give you the option to withdraw, remove and delete for all time, these illegal files from any internet systems where you have placed them and to sign a legal settlement agreement with Osho International Foundation and the Spanish publishers.</p>
<p>You have one week from receipt of this letter to remove the illegal files from all internet system and to sign a settlement agreement.</p>
<p>RAÚL VILLAVICENCIO BEDOYA</p>
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		<title>By: deepak</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/241#comment-970</link>
		<dc:creator>deepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow..
good gibrish is going on....
:-)
I am laughing my head off...

good keepit on....

with love,
deepak]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow..<br />
good gibrish is going on&#8230;.<br />
 <img src='http://sannyasnews.org/now/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I am laughing my head off&#8230;</p>
<p>good keepit on&#8230;.</p>
<p>with love,<br />
deepak</p>
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		<title>By: Alok john</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/241#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>Alok john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS  

I claim copyright to

‘Be as cool as a Buddha in Osho Zennis Sportswear.’]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS  </p>
<p>I claim copyright to</p>
<p>‘Be as cool as a Buddha in Osho Zennis Sportswear.’</p>
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		<title>By: Nirguna</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/241#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>Nirguna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I understand of course that OIF still holds the trademark in Germany, anyway.&quot;

There is no German trademark &quot;Osho&quot; of OIF. I have made an investigation about Osho related trademarks in Europe - EU trademarks, international trademarks and German trademarks. You can download it as pdf-file 
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=67X4V9XB
For other national trademarks in Europe one could do a similar research with the specific public databases.

&quot;Just joking around now I thought of a great slogan for Osho Sportwear USA
&#039;Be as cool as a Buddha in Osho Zennis Sportswear.&#039; ”

Well yes, why not, that&#039;s great! Osho alias Oysho has trendy sexy cloths for young woman, why not? With greetings form Pune 1 and the hippie and sex guru. A juicy way of life. Quite different to the suppressing ways of religions, especially suppressing sex and enforcing moral rules. Osho reaches as well into realms we do not even imagine. We are here to live it and to help it grow, not to control it. Control is the old, rotten way of Sheela and her followers in the so-called Osho International Foundation. Sheela created nothing but a concentration camp in Oregon. OIF created another concentration camp, a concentration camp for the creative energies of Sannyasins around the world. Closing down of Osho websites and blogs of Sannyasins with legal steps by OIF is not the way. It is high time that these controllers get out of the way of Osho and his people around the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I understand of course that OIF still holds the trademark in Germany, anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no German trademark &#8220;Osho&#8221; of OIF. I have made an investigation about Osho related trademarks in Europe &#8211; EU trademarks, international trademarks and German trademarks. You can download it as pdf-file<br />
<a href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=67X4V9XB" rel="nofollow">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=67X4V9XB</a><br />
For other national trademarks in Europe one could do a similar research with the specific public databases.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just joking around now I thought of a great slogan for Osho Sportwear USA<br />
&#8216;Be as cool as a Buddha in Osho Zennis Sportswear.&#8217; ”</p>
<p>Well yes, why not, that&#8217;s great! Osho alias Oysho has trendy sexy cloths for young woman, why not? With greetings form Pune 1 and the hippie and sex guru. A juicy way of life. Quite different to the suppressing ways of religions, especially suppressing sex and enforcing moral rules. Osho reaches as well into realms we do not even imagine. We are here to live it and to help it grow, not to control it. Control is the old, rotten way of Sheela and her followers in the so-called Osho International Foundation. Sheela created nothing but a concentration camp in Oregon. OIF created another concentration camp, a concentration camp for the creative energies of Sannyasins around the world. Closing down of Osho websites and blogs of Sannyasins with legal steps by OIF is not the way. It is high time that these controllers get out of the way of Osho and his people around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: amrito</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/241#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>amrito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They say hundreds of thousands visit OIMR (resort) every year. They say its been much since Osho was in the body. 

But, disney land has millions of people visit every year and does that make a huge movement for Disney so that people who go their create mini-disney lands for themselves at home? No.

I have the impression that those orange people who were around Osho (few comparable to the proporrted large numbers now--who knows) had a larger exponential impact for Osho than the thousands that go now. Its simply a Disney Land for many, a vacation spot.. But even Disney land won&#039;t ban you if you are critical of them..

In those beautiful books and darshan diaries Osho used to tell everyone who came to the ashram to start a meditation center back home. &quot;You just start one...&quot;

I think very soon we may see Osho Centers, but they will be more like franchises upholding the rules and regulations of the mother corporation. 

But why so? Why can&#039;t the wildfire remain wild? Osho was one wild man, and now to even wear his Mala inside the resort is considerred rebellious. In india I wore it everywhere except the place where it was invented...what an ironic situation!

And some will say...&quot;you just go in and dont be concerned about the outside&quot;---unfortunately out is in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say hundreds of thousands visit OIMR (resort) every year. They say its been much since Osho was in the body. </p>
<p>But, disney land has millions of people visit every year and does that make a huge movement for Disney so that people who go their create mini-disney lands for themselves at home? No.</p>
<p>I have the impression that those orange people who were around Osho (few comparable to the proporrted large numbers now&#8211;who knows) had a larger exponential impact for Osho than the thousands that go now. Its simply a Disney Land for many, a vacation spot.. But even Disney land won&#8217;t ban you if you are critical of them..</p>
<p>In those beautiful books and darshan diaries Osho used to tell everyone who came to the ashram to start a meditation center back home. &#8220;You just start one&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I think very soon we may see Osho Centers, but they will be more like franchises upholding the rules and regulations of the mother corporation. </p>
<p>But why so? Why can&#8217;t the wildfire remain wild? Osho was one wild man, and now to even wear his Mala inside the resort is considerred rebellious. In india I wore it everywhere except the place where it was invented&#8230;what an ironic situation!</p>
<p>And some will say&#8230;&#8221;you just go in and dont be concerned about the outside&#8221;&#8212;unfortunately out is in.</p>
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		<title>By: Alok john</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/241#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>Alok john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heraclitus writes 
&quot;It may explain why many people seem to buy these books but few turn up in Pune or anywhere else to follow up the original interest.&quot;......refering to the difference between modern books and the Pune 1 books, which I agree were works of art.

I doubt it is because of the new  books.   You have to be in quite a crisis to want to visit a meditation centre to do dynamic or to desire to visit Pune.   At any one time on the planet there are only so many people in such a (an existential?) crisis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heraclitus writes<br />
&#8220;It may explain why many people seem to buy these books but few turn up in Pune or anywhere else to follow up the original interest.&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;refering to the difference between modern books and the Pune 1 books, which I agree were works of art.</p>
<p>I doubt it is because of the new  books.   You have to be in quite a crisis to want to visit a meditation centre to do dynamic or to desire to visit Pune.   At any one time on the planet there are only so many people in such a (an existential?) crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Alok john</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/241#comment-850</link>
		<dc:creator>Alok john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand of course that OIF still holds the trademark in Germany, anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand of course that OIF still holds the trademark in Germany, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Heraclitus</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/241#comment-848</link>
		<dc:creator>Heraclitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dhanyam started this string and his issue seems lost to me. 
OIF have more power and money than some of the guys writing here imagine. 
The books continue to stream out of them and they have a lot of resources and have showed at least major stickability over the years.  I feel  there is a major unaddressed issue here,  over and above the legal niceties. 
The &quot;best&quot; books that were ever produced for Osho&#039;s words were those of Pune one, 1974 -81. They were works of art.  Does Dhanyam agree? Maybe not. They contained authentic phtos of what was happening in the ashram groups, etc and could easily be seen as putting the average reader off, and I do think this was Osho&#039;s intent. 
Because i could not get the original books,  or could not afford the prices on ebay etc, I just got a copy of the Tao commentary from 1977 called The Pathless Path published by St Martin&#039;s New York. 
To me a pathethic little thing, no pics at all, and very selective text. In fact the orginal series of the The Pathless Path contained lectures and answers to questions that stretched over the period Feb 11th to March 10th, 1977. This book shrinks all that down to just five lectures and one question and answer session.
Poor Osho, I wonder really what he would have made of that.
It may explain why many people seem to buy these books but few turn up in Pune or anywhere else to follow up the original interest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dhanyam started this string and his issue seems lost to me.<br />
OIF have more power and money than some of the guys writing here imagine.<br />
The books continue to stream out of them and they have a lot of resources and have showed at least major stickability over the years.  I feel  there is a major unaddressed issue here,  over and above the legal niceties.<br />
The &#8220;best&#8221; books that were ever produced for Osho&#8217;s words were those of Pune one, 1974 -81. They were works of art.  Does Dhanyam agree? Maybe not. They contained authentic phtos of what was happening in the ashram groups, etc and could easily be seen as putting the average reader off, and I do think this was Osho&#8217;s intent.<br />
Because i could not get the original books,  or could not afford the prices on ebay etc, I just got a copy of the Tao commentary from 1977 called The Pathless Path published by St Martin&#8217;s New York.<br />
To me a pathethic little thing, no pics at all, and very selective text. In fact the orginal series of the The Pathless Path contained lectures and answers to questions that stretched over the period Feb 11th to March 10th, 1977. This book shrinks all that down to just five lectures and one question and answer session.<br />
Poor Osho, I wonder really what he would have made of that.<br />
It may explain why many people seem to buy these books but few turn up in Pune or anywhere else to follow up the original interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Alok john</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/241#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>Alok john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nirguna writes :
&quot;There is a German trademark “Osho” since 1996. It is a trademark for clothing, but it is not owned by OIF.&quot;

But this is irrelevant. &quot;Apple Computer and Apple Records can peacefully co-exist, since consumers are not likely to think that the computers are being made by the record company, or vice versa.&quot;........from my link http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/metaschool/fisher/domain/tm.htm

Okay I am sure it gets a bit more complicated if there are two identical trademarks in the same country.  In the example you give, if OIF held the trademark, it could stop Osho Hamburgers and Osho Tissues but maybe not Osho Jeans.  There would be tons of precedents for this sort of thing.   Maybe an agreement would be reached so that the identical trademarks  are distinguished by different typefaces.


Just joking around now I thought of a great slogan for Osho Sportwear USA
&quot;Be as cool as a Buddha in Osho Zennis Sportswear.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nirguna writes :<br />
&#8220;There is a German trademark “Osho” since 1996. It is a trademark for clothing, but it is not owned by OIF.&#8221;</p>
<p>But this is irrelevant. &#8220;Apple Computer and Apple Records can peacefully co-exist, since consumers are not likely to think that the computers are being made by the record company, or vice versa.&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;..from my link <a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/metaschool/fisher/domain/tm.htm" rel="nofollow">http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/metaschool/fisher/domain/tm.htm</a></p>
<p>Okay I am sure it gets a bit more complicated if there are two identical trademarks in the same country.  In the example you give, if OIF held the trademark, it could stop Osho Hamburgers and Osho Tissues but maybe not Osho Jeans.  There would be tons of precedents for this sort of thing.   Maybe an agreement would be reached so that the identical trademarks  are distinguished by different typefaces.</p>
<p>Just joking around now I thought of a great slogan for Osho Sportwear USA<br />
&#8220;Be as cool as a Buddha in Osho Zennis Sportswear.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Swami Aman Vismaya</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/241#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Swami Aman Vismaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beloved friends,
love,
There is a letter for all Osho lovers for new situation in Osho Movement at www.oshoworld.com in sannyas news artical.
Love from 
OSHO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beloved friends,<br />
love,<br />
There is a letter for all Osho lovers for new situation in Osho Movement at <a href="http://www.oshoworld.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.oshoworld.com</a> in sannyas news artical.<br />
Love from<br />
OSHO</p>
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