Comments on: Pune Meditation Resort Team Letter

By: Preetam

Preetam — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:16:21 +0000

Yes, I filled too much in – sorry, Roman.

By: Sw. Bodhi Vartan

Sw. Bodhi Vartan — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:07:19 +0000

Preetam, you are filling your mind with too much. It hurts my mind to read it.

Vartan

By: roman

roman — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:30:43 +0000

Preetam,
I don’t know how you arrived at the idea that I think the present time is more loving.
We are living in times of riots and uprisings as the gap between the rich and poor increases.

By: roman

roman — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:10:36 +0000

Vartan,
Osho was dangerous and if he was still alive and discoursing you don’t think people would be threatened in our ‘far more liberal’ world as you put it? You seem to be unaware that liberal democracy is itself a ruse. The world may seem more liberal now but the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer. Remember the Occupy Movement?
They weren’t having a picnic and feeding the ducks. Today, Osho would be stirring the pot just as he did when he was thrown out of twelve countries. Why was he thrown out of twelve countries? Because they didn’t like his dress sense? Why are women under thirty more radical these days than before? What is it about these English ‘girls’?
You don’t look for change. It looks for you. And just when you least expect it the rug gets pulled out from under one’s comfy feet.

You don’t want to talk politics, you say, but it is in the very air we breathe. Politics is who does what to whom for whose benefit. We are talking about agency, power and interests, and the relations among these. Politics is part of our lives.

By: Preetam

Preetam — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:51:29 +0000

Roman and Vartan, me too, never wanted to talk politics, but it’s impossible for me leaving it outside, if speaking about truth. Roman says our present time is more overflowing with Love, Peace and Harmony than ever before…Sure, it is an overflowing, but not more than any other time before. Vartan speaks of more liberal, I would say the shade became more sick, darker, and the light brighter. That is the great in Humans; his creativity is giant, same as his truth is.

If we see the Data, worldwide Warfare, Terror, Murder and Bloodshed is increasing, coming from the same corner of Intrigue and Warmongering, for lower interests. But Humanity is inexorable, creative and inventive, that is what Leaders reap, they reap Humans. The Humanity isn’t unwilling of doing better; Folk don’t have the Instruments for being that destructive. Those people in Power keep the Power by Repression of Human Truth and at the same time kick his face down under the control of their sword.

Not political Parties or traditional Religions, behind is something really mean. Still I can not find a fitting description. As I see it, movements like Osho commune are dangerous for them and for keeping their power, they have to act and their tools are dastardly. That the world has become more liberal, I can not see…That is what is presented by that scheme, for giving feeling of some movement, from one generation to the next. You have to keep the people in a certain way motivated, not being themselves but still working and following the common, always the same strategies and tools of the ruler.

By: Sw. Bodhi Vartan

Sw. Bodhi Vartan — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:16:04 +0000

Roman says:
“The game now seems very different. Sannyas today is a middle-class movement which isn’t a threat to conventional or traditional values. Hindu leaders once remarked how dangerous the Rajneesh movement was.”

How dangerous would you like us to be? What you forget is that today’s world is far more liberal than it was in Osho’s time. I don’t know about other parts of the world, but in my neck of the woods (London) the under 30s are far more with it than we ever was, especially the girls. To be dangerous these days you really have to strap a bomb to your butt and let-go. Personally, I feel that the confrontational attitude is something of the past (not that sannyasins will ever stop being rebels) but that at this point in time we need to be holding back the provocation as nobody is listening anyaway.

Roman says:
“To be honest, when looking for change in the world, I find myself looking more to places where risings and uprisings are happening. For instance, the rallies in Egypt….”

I hope you are not serious. In places like Egypt, etc, what is happening is that western interests are hijacking the people’s hopes and imposing the Muslim Brotherhood on them (check out their history). I really don’t want to be talking politics. I am not looking for any change in the world.

Vartan

By: Sw. Bodhi Vartan

Sw. Bodhi Vartan — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:04:47 +0000

Frank says: “I am empty, like the contents of my bottle…”

You are not meant to drink the stuff. You are supposed to get others drunk with it. I despair.

Vartan

By: alok john

alok john — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:09:19 +0000

As far as I know, she was not an orphan. I believe she was from Morden, a south London suburb. Possibly she was alienated from her family. Many of us were. But yes, her past seems to be shrouded in mystery. I think her legal name was Christine Woolf.

By: frank

frank — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:20:14 +0000

Naked of breast, I visit the marketplace riding on 9 or 10 Red Bulls…
some good stuff stashed in my staff…
I stumble to the wine shop in the town square and then stagger home…
I am empty, like the contents of my bottle…
Everyone I meet seems enlightened….

Yeah. Life before rehab.
Happy daze!

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:12:28 +0000

There is one puzzling question. I hope few bravehearts will share the answer.
I am wondering whether Nirvano, the closest Ma around Osho, had some family members in UK or was she an orphan?

Normally, when someone dies in a foreign country or in some institution, it is a common procedure to inform the family members. In case someone dies in mysterious circumstances, family members go all the way to hell and heaven to have the proper investigative report.
In Nirvano´s case, no one came forward. Does it mean she was an Orpahn, who had nobody in her life other than Osho..? And as the history shows, at that time Osho was also confineed to his bed and two people were confining His whole work…

Seems like, Jayesh/Amrito team think other than to God, they are not answerable to anyone. And God..? He is pronounced Dead by their Master!
(In their attitude, Osho is their Master. rest of us all were just customers/students).