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	<title>Comments on: Being the Master of My Life by Veeresh</title>
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		<title>By: Jivan Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jivan Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you!

Love]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Love</p>
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		<title>By: veet vivarto</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/203#comment-11088</link>
		<dc:creator>veet vivarto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[osho Leela has variouse degrees of involvement. One may get seriously involved in the humanity university program. good if you can hack the sleep deprivation and having one limits pushed . Or, a weekend Puravda, just fun, bio dance and other workshops such as singing bowl sound bath, great for the ultimate do nothing relax. Bio energetics is offered as is Aum meditation, these are heavier and pushing limits.
All workshops are optional, as one can just hang out and dance.
So, from my limited view there is no coersion or attempt to capture or brainwash any body. namaste. have fun]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>osho Leela has variouse degrees of involvement. One may get seriously involved in the humanity university program. good if you can hack the sleep deprivation and having one limits pushed . Or, a weekend Puravda, just fun, bio dance and other workshops such as singing bowl sound bath, great for the ultimate do nothing relax. Bio energetics is offered as is Aum meditation, these are heavier and pushing limits.<br />
All workshops are optional, as one can just hang out and dance.<br />
So, from my limited view there is no coersion or attempt to capture or brainwash any body. namaste. have fun</p>
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		<title>By: amiten</title>
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		<dc:creator>amiten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the shadow of the bambu tree sweeps the floor without dust coming out...
my  love and gratitude to the the full moon master Osho.

from here im not ...
amiten]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the shadow of the bambu tree sweeps the floor without dust coming out&#8230;<br />
my  love and gratitude to the the full moon master Osho.</p>
<p>from here im not &#8230;<br />
amiten</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and quoting dead guys  with beards
 wont get you to nirvana,anyway]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and quoting dead guys  with beards<br />
 wont get you to nirvana,anyway</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as anthony thompson
 and christopher calder have pointed out.
what osho said 
and what he did and meant,
were not the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as anthony thompson<br />
 and christopher calder have pointed out.<br />
what osho said<br />
and what he did and meant,<br />
were not the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Swami Aatmo Neerav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swami Aatmo Neerav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Osho on ON COPYRIGHT, TRADEMARKS,SUCCESSION, SUCCESSORS 

(It is quite clear that he was neither interested nor intended that his discourses and meditations be copyrighted or trademarked. After reading these I am sure Osho never said that he left his dream to Jayesh or Amrito (as they claim), everyone who loved him were his medium an he left his dream to everyone )

&quot;Things can be copyrighted, thoughts cannot be copyrighted, and certainly meditations cannot be copyrighted. They are not things of the marketplace. Nobody can monopolize anything. But perhaps the West cannot understand the difference between an objective commodity and an inner experience. For ten thousand years the East has been meditating and nobody has put trademarks upon meditations.”

Osho- Om Shanti Shanti Shanti 

&quot;I want my sannyasins to inherit my freedom, my awareness, my consciousness. And each sannyasin has to be my successor, has to be me. There is no need for anybody to dominate. There is nobody for anybody to dictate to. They are on their own. If they want to be together they can be together. Out of their own freedom, it is their choice and their decision. If they want to move free they have all the rights to move free.&quot; 

Osho - The Last Testament


So when I say, &quot;Spread the word,&quot; I mean whatever I have been telling you, go on spreading in as many ways as possible. Use all the news media, use everything that technology has provided, so that the word reaches to every nook and corner of the earth. And remember, it is far more powerful than any nuclear weapons because nuclear weapons can only bring death -- that is not power. But the word which has come from an enlightened consciousness can bring new life to you; it can give you rebirth, resurrection -- that is power. 

OshoThe Path of the Mystic 

“But nobody is my follower. Nobody is going to be my successor. Each sannyasin is my representative. When I am dead, you all -- individually -- will have to represent me to the world. 

Osho - From Death to Deathlesssnes 

“The very idea of succession is not the right idea in the world of consciousness. That&#039;s why I have said, I will not have successors. But you are right in saying that you will carry in your bones and in your blood my love, my insight. But don&#039;t use the word `successor&#039;, rather use the words `you will be me&#039;. Why be so far away, a successor, when you can be me? Be so empty that I can make a home in you, that your emptiness can absorb my emptiness, that your heart can have the same dance as my heart. It is not succession; it is transmission.
The very idea of succession is political. Only one person can be a successor, so there is bound to be competition, ambition. There is bound to be a subtle struggle to be closer to the master, to force others away. It may not be on the surface but, underneath, the problem will remain in the disciples: &quot;Who is going to be the successor?&quot;
I destroy the whole conception. Every disciple who has loved has become one with the master. There is no need of any competition, nor one successor. It is for everybody who has offered himself in deep gratitude, who has become one in a certain sense with the master&#039;s presence. There is no need of any competition. Thousands can have the same experience, millions can have the same experience.
To avoid politics in religion, I have said that I will not have successors. I want religion to be absolutely devoid of ambition, competition, being higher than another, putting everybody lower than oneself. With me you are all equal. And I trust and love you, that you will prove this equality. In equals there is no competition; there is a combined effort. You will all carry my message, but nobody will be higher or lower, nobody will be a successor. All will be my lovers and they will carry me.” 


Osho Nansen: The Point of Departure 

“Once I am gone, the serious people are dangerous. They can take possession, because they are always in search of taking possession of things. They can become my successors, and then they will destroy. So remember this: even an ignorant person can become my successor, but he must be able to laugh and celebrate. Even if somebody claims that he is enlightened, just see his face: if he is serious, he is not going to be successor to me! Let this be the criterion: even a fool will do, but he should be able to laugh and enjoy and celebrate life. But serious people are always in search of power. People who can laugh are not worried about power -- that is the problem. Life is so good, who bothers to become a pope? Simple people, happy in their simple ways, don&#039;t bother about politics.” 


OshoYoga: The Alpha and the Omega]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osho on ON COPYRIGHT, TRADEMARKS,SUCCESSION, SUCCESSORS </p>
<p>(It is quite clear that he was neither interested nor intended that his discourses and meditations be copyrighted or trademarked. After reading these I am sure Osho never said that he left his dream to Jayesh or Amrito (as they claim), everyone who loved him were his medium an he left his dream to everyone )</p>
<p>&#8220;Things can be copyrighted, thoughts cannot be copyrighted, and certainly meditations cannot be copyrighted. They are not things of the marketplace. Nobody can monopolize anything. But perhaps the West cannot understand the difference between an objective commodity and an inner experience. For ten thousand years the East has been meditating and nobody has put trademarks upon meditations.”</p>
<p>Osho- Om Shanti Shanti Shanti </p>
<p>&#8220;I want my sannyasins to inherit my freedom, my awareness, my consciousness. And each sannyasin has to be my successor, has to be me. There is no need for anybody to dominate. There is nobody for anybody to dictate to. They are on their own. If they want to be together they can be together. Out of their own freedom, it is their choice and their decision. If they want to move free they have all the rights to move free.&#8221; </p>
<p>Osho &#8211; The Last Testament</p>
<p>So when I say, &#8220;Spread the word,&#8221; I mean whatever I have been telling you, go on spreading in as many ways as possible. Use all the news media, use everything that technology has provided, so that the word reaches to every nook and corner of the earth. And remember, it is far more powerful than any nuclear weapons because nuclear weapons can only bring death &#8212; that is not power. But the word which has come from an enlightened consciousness can bring new life to you; it can give you rebirth, resurrection &#8212; that is power. </p>
<p>OshoThe Path of the Mystic </p>
<p>“But nobody is my follower. Nobody is going to be my successor. Each sannyasin is my representative. When I am dead, you all &#8212; individually &#8212; will have to represent me to the world. </p>
<p>Osho &#8211; From Death to Deathlesssnes </p>
<p>“The very idea of succession is not the right idea in the world of consciousness. That&#8217;s why I have said, I will not have successors. But you are right in saying that you will carry in your bones and in your blood my love, my insight. But don&#8217;t use the word `successor&#8217;, rather use the words `you will be me&#8217;. Why be so far away, a successor, when you can be me? Be so empty that I can make a home in you, that your emptiness can absorb my emptiness, that your heart can have the same dance as my heart. It is not succession; it is transmission.<br />
The very idea of succession is political. Only one person can be a successor, so there is bound to be competition, ambition. There is bound to be a subtle struggle to be closer to the master, to force others away. It may not be on the surface but, underneath, the problem will remain in the disciples: &#8220;Who is going to be the successor?&#8221;<br />
I destroy the whole conception. Every disciple who has loved has become one with the master. There is no need of any competition, nor one successor. It is for everybody who has offered himself in deep gratitude, who has become one in a certain sense with the master&#8217;s presence. There is no need of any competition. Thousands can have the same experience, millions can have the same experience.<br />
To avoid politics in religion, I have said that I will not have successors. I want religion to be absolutely devoid of ambition, competition, being higher than another, putting everybody lower than oneself. With me you are all equal. And I trust and love you, that you will prove this equality. In equals there is no competition; there is a combined effort. You will all carry my message, but nobody will be higher or lower, nobody will be a successor. All will be my lovers and they will carry me.” </p>
<p>Osho Nansen: The Point of Departure </p>
<p>“Once I am gone, the serious people are dangerous. They can take possession, because they are always in search of taking possession of things. They can become my successors, and then they will destroy. So remember this: even an ignorant person can become my successor, but he must be able to laugh and celebrate. Even if somebody claims that he is enlightened, just see his face: if he is serious, he is not going to be successor to me! Let this be the criterion: even a fool will do, but he should be able to laugh and enjoy and celebrate life. But serious people are always in search of power. People who can laugh are not worried about power &#8212; that is the problem. Life is so good, who bothers to become a pope? Simple people, happy in their simple ways, don&#8217;t bother about politics.” </p>
<p>OshoYoga: The Alpha and the Omega</p>
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		<title>By: Alok john</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alok john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank wrote  &quot;Aggressive  Underhand  Mendacious&quot;

Sadly it has always been like that.   Partly it is the unemployment;  people will do anything for a buck.

And poor old Osho carried the can in American jails for the &quot;sin in sannyasin.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank wrote  &#8220;Aggressive  Underhand  Mendacious&#8221;</p>
<p>Sadly it has always been like that.   Partly it is the unemployment;  people will do anything for a buck.</p>
<p>And poor old Osho carried the can in American jails for the &#8220;sin in sannyasin.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: amrito</title>
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		<dc:creator>amrito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;lets put the con
back in consciousness
and the
sin
back in sannyasin…&quot;

haha....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;lets put the con<br />
back in consciousness<br />
and the<br />
sin<br />
back in sannyasin…&#8221;</p>
<p>haha&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey lighten up john.
so a few unconscious neg losers and ordinary neurotics with unresolved stuff get burned...
big deal!
we`re the chosen few,ok?

if they cant handle the therapy,
they should just hand over the cash and make at least some contribution apart from just bringing more shit into the world.

come on.

lets put the con 
back in consciousness
and the 
sin
back in sannyasin...


you`ll be asking for a money back guarantee for enlightenment from your guru,next....

 get real,and do the aum,swami.
it`ll put you in touch with your dark side.
theres no light without darkness,
so chill
the world needs us.....

Aggressive
Underhand
Mendacious]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey lighten up john.<br />
so a few unconscious neg losers and ordinary neurotics with unresolved stuff get burned&#8230;<br />
big deal!<br />
we`re the chosen few,ok?</p>
<p>if they cant handle the therapy,<br />
they should just hand over the cash and make at least some contribution apart from just bringing more shit into the world.</p>
<p>come on.</p>
<p>lets put the con<br />
back in consciousness<br />
and the<br />
sin<br />
back in sannyasin&#8230;</p>
<p>you`ll be asking for a money back guarantee for enlightenment from your guru,next&#8230;.</p>
<p> get real,and do the aum,swami.<br />
it`ll put you in touch with your dark side.<br />
theres no light without darkness,<br />
so chill<br />
the world needs us&#8230;..</p>
<p>Aggressive<br />
Underhand<br />
Mendacious</p>
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		<title>By: Alok john</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/203#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Alok john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little more I remember about Dhyano/Pragit and L...

Roundabout the same time Leela was selling “share certificates”  for a few pounds I think.   These were offered to visitors to raise money for Leela.  We were told that if you bought a share certificate you would own a share of Osho Leela. 

The certificates looked like fakes to me and a quick check at Companies House on the web confirmed that they were fakes.   

Not only were they fakes, but they were third rate fakes.  My friend Brian said a twelve year old with a toy printing press from a toy shop would produce a better forgery.

Ah well, I guess childish forgeries gel well with childish psychotherapies.

However it was certainly a criminal offence to sell such false share certificates, probably fraud or forgery.

So maybe L’s parents had one, and that was the leverage they used to get their money back when they visited Leela.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little more I remember about Dhyano/Pragit and L&#8230;</p>
<p>Roundabout the same time Leela was selling “share certificates”  for a few pounds I think.   These were offered to visitors to raise money for Leela.  We were told that if you bought a share certificate you would own a share of Osho Leela. </p>
<p>The certificates looked like fakes to me and a quick check at Companies House on the web confirmed that they were fakes.   </p>
<p>Not only were they fakes, but they were third rate fakes.  My friend Brian said a twelve year old with a toy printing press from a toy shop would produce a better forgery.</p>
<p>Ah well, I guess childish forgeries gel well with childish psychotherapies.</p>
<p>However it was certainly a criminal offence to sell such false share certificates, probably fraud or forgery.</p>
<p>So maybe L’s parents had one, and that was the leverage they used to get their money back when they visited Leela.</p>
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