Comments on: Osho and the Organising Woman

By: Arpana

Arpana — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:25:38 +0000

Well you know what they say ‘not Frank’

If you can fake sincerity you’ve got it made,
and if anyone can fake sincerity, it’s Frank..
All the best.

By: Ananto

Ananto — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 18:23:17 +0000

It’s my name
Swami Prem Ananto. [via Dhanyam in California]
Not Frank in disguise, honest.
I’m the fortune teller.
Called Pete for civilian life.
Thought I knew who Frank was too, but having read through posts this one is a DJ in Ibiza, the one I know does TV now and then and was a stand-up comedian.
I am 60 though, as is Frank, according to his posts.
I live in England.
HTH

By: Ananto

Ananto — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 09:33:22 +0000

Have you fallen off the wagon again Frank?
Just say ‘NO’ bro.

By: Arpana

Arpana — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:58:10 +0000

Frank.

So this is your sannyas name.

By: Ananto

Ananto — Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:33:46 +0000

Thought we’d moved on from that fighting and fucking period.
Obviously not everywhere.
Zen the path of paradox
still floats my boat. Top book.
Communes all fail eventually we’re just not that good at them long term.
No such thing as utopia. The minute you have defined one in words it’s shit. Then comes committee meetings. Later it closes down.
Osho never belonged to a commune although he wasn’t against being an honoured guest in one.

By: Arpana

Arpana — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 06:58:04 +0000

I have always assumed this was in part, a primary way of confronting everybody, all of us, the world, ‘religion’, the status quo.

By: Teertha

Teertha — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 02:51:30 +0000

That’s an interesting question in itself. The common view has been that Osho was rather ‘feminized’, that is, he had a profound grasp of relationship, was body-oriented, had a marked aesthetic nature, installed mainly women into his important administrative posts, etc. (Though it was interesting to note, from Parmartha’s opening piece, that Osho’s first secretary was actually male — I for one was unaware of that). Yet clearly his masculine qualities were also well developed, especially when his boyhood days are considered (leading gangs, jumping off dangerously high bridges, being generally aggressive and confrontational, etc.). In the end, I think Osho’s ‘feminization’ was exaggerated. I think the main reason he installed women into the key administrative posts was out of common sense, that being that his women disciples (with the exception of a few players, mainly Sheela and cronies) were simply more loyal. His key male disciples, like Paul Lowe (Teertha — not me, the other guy) and Michael Barnett (Somendra), left him to set themselves up as gurus, something Osho denounced in both cases.

This was all, again, paralleled by Gurdjieff, whose key male disciples — Ouspensky, A.R. Orage, and John Bennett — all failed him in different ways.

All this throws an interesting light on the old traditions, for example, Buddha and Jesus. Buddha’s disciples of note, as recorded by history, are mostly all men. Same with Jesus. One wonders how many significant women disciples these two actually had whose names simply never made it into the history books.

By: lokesh

lokesh — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:40:58 +0000

But…but…Shantam, I thought you were a virgin and a Madonna fan.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:18:05 +0000

Another slice of your time wasted, Shantam.
(You appear to be rather good at that, if nothing else!).

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:36:40 +0000

One does not need to talk or discuss about inner experiences, they are more personal in nature than the intimacy on the bed.