Comments on: Osho and Health, Whose Body is it Anyway?

By: roman

roman — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:51:35 +0000

Teertha,
Really interesting post about human potential movement, Maslow and particularly Esalen. Good luck with that book. Interesting that about 10 volumes on Osho’s discourses on the Bhagavad Gita are being translated in English. Guess he didn’t have time to read all the Western stuff but he did throw in a few names like Eckhart and other christian mystics. I thought the early ‘Come Follow Me’ discourses on Jesus were incredibly moving. About 8 volumes there!. He was vast.

By: frank

frank — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:03:25 +0000

PT,
not a lot of people know that!
you have really uncovered an esoteric secret of the thespian alchemists here…
enlightened masters were taking their tips from luvvies and thesps all along…
“presence” is the other thing that satsangers EOs etc go on about.
well,that is taught in every drama school too.

how to method act enlightenment:
speak slow
move slow
yet ensure arm movements are more pronounced than normal
blink little
look people in the eye beyond the normal accepted time
maximise presence at all times.
show little emotion.
remain on buttocks for lengthy periods.

crazy wisdom masters need a larger repetoire of course,but the advantage there is that,once your status is established, even if you get drunk and fall over eg, people will simply assume it is an important teaching…

By: Teertha

Teertha — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:51:32 +0000

Perhaps blinking is inversely related to level of enlightenment. Buddha then wins, because in his statues he has not blinked for over 2,000 years.

And here, actor Michael Caine explaining the mysteries of blinking vs. not blinking (and perhaps one of Osho’s secrets):

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By: frank

frank — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:49:18 +0000

enlightenment is the ultimate game for kids,then.
how lazy you can be?
how long you can go without blinking?
storytelling.
even god is playing hide and seek with himself,supposedly

By: frank

frank — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:52:38 +0000

guenon would have said osho was a charlatan,as he called his contemporary,gurdjieff, a charlatan.
he thought wisdom could only be passed in a sanctioned tradition.
they are probably both power trippers and control freaks in my view.
but a choice between an officially-sanctioned-by-other-traditional-wiseguys wiseguy and an off-the-hoof-make-it-up-as-you-go-along-self-employed-DIY charlatan – I know which I prefer.

By: Young sannyasin

Young sannyasin — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:09:14 +0000

I don’t think so. But of course, all these intellectual definitions are something he would laugh about. What is interesting is to read the opinions of Guènon about J.Krishnamurti. Would he probably have written the same thing about Osho, if he could have had the possibility to know about him?

By: frank

frank — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:00:38 +0000

re jung,reich,neitzsche etc…

neitzsche….”dyonisus against the crucified” is how he signed his name as he checked out of planetside and slipped into insanity in the grips of his fascist sister…

“the murder of christ”… reich`s book as he slid into self-identification with christ,insanity,flying saucer wars and paranoid delusions.

“socrates poisoned again
jesus christ crucified again in ronald rayguns america”……
then he gets a good hiding from a bunch of black magicians in his own back yard….

is there a connection,a lineage of some sort?

osho “hated” jung,but gave “posthumous sannyas” to reich–said he was a tantric master etc
(altho` one quote you wont hear from osho neo-reichian therapists is when,after reading reichs wife account of his carryons,osho declared reich a “pervert”

sannyasins in general have a skewed reverence for reich,and dont realise that even hardcore reichians these days realise that reich was not “persecuted” by the US govt(“the blue meanies”)but in fact it was his own stupidity and poor judgment that landed in him in jail,which he could easily have avoided if he had not suffered from insufferable arrogance and paranoia.
he was also a heavy drinker at that point.drink nor drugs tend to not be helpful to paranoia.

have you read “listen little man”by reich?
i had a few glasses of schnapps and read it out loud,and method acted it in a german accent.
it was scary man.
you wouldn`t want that guy round for dinner,i can tell you….

By: roman

roman — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:51:00 +0000

Teertha,
I enjoy your tales and the downloads. I also meant the Tavern not the Inn.
Osho certainly could tell a good story. Reminds me of the following:
‘It was a stormy night in the Bay of Biscay and his sailors were seated around the fire. Suddenly the Captain said, Tell us a story, Captain. And the Captain began, It was a stormy night in the Bay of Biscay…

Ciaran Carson, Fishing for Amber: A Long Story

By: roman

roman — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:33:54 +0000

Teertha,
Thanks for these words. Talk about the uncanny. I guess many of us could share such stories. Perhaps we should all met at the Boar’s Head Inn?

By: roman

roman — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:26:09 +0000

YS,
Perennialists like Guenon and Schuon are obviously concerned with truths that they consider to be permanent and universal. Fascism doesn’t have a place in their world. Was Osho a perennialist? A rhetorical question.