Comments on: Osho’s place in a New Spiritual Tradition?

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:38:25 +0000

A lesson in wholeheartedness then!

But I still don’t get this:

“for me the story telling is the medium, not the debated positions…”

By: martyn

martyn — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:55:31 +0000

ok last post cos its work for the editors..
SD..the piece de resistance… is your judgement and your investment like mine is mine…and maybe the never the twain shall meet…
my girlfriend hugged mooji ..i didn’t….
i could not care less… what anyone says about the value behind it or not, or me, or my shoe size….

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:38:16 +0000

Martyn:
SD I absolutely refused a hug from friends wanting me to get one at an Amma gig many years ago.. the room was full of asexual hindus and her rugged fussy male protectors on stage who were lording it festival style to everyone down at tufnell park hindu temple…the room was full of goofy benign idiots to put it simply…no mischievious fun at all…

SD:
Some would say that’s a classic piece de resistance – or alternatively, a ‘piece of resistance’, ie choosing not to see the wood for the trees…;

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:34:30 +0000

Ok, but I still don’t get this:

“for me the story telling is the medium, not the debated positions…”

By: martyn

martyn — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:56:13 +0000

* SD( i mean i refused to have a hug from Amma when encouraged from friends to have one from her )

By: martyn

martyn — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:52:44 +0000

sd mutual fun is sacred to me, as it has been to my close friends..like laughing during sex…

further; my jesting and my own confirmation by laughing at home with my laptop and friend(s) shows enough for me that I understand the off side rule but i’m not identified with the football result…and dont want the team jersey…..
so these days all you get is me here… not in community…

SD I absolutely refused a hug from friends wanting me to get one at an Amma gig many years ago.. the room was full of asexual hindus and her rugged fussy male protectors on stage who were lording it festival style to everyone down at tufnell park hindu temple…the room was full of goofy benign idiots to put it simply…no mischievious fun at all…

I had energy darshan with Osho…and that crippled me with catatonic laughter…. for hours… i dont need or want anyone elses…

love, with the heckling funny bits
martyn

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:20:12 +0000

Sorry, I don’t understand you here. That could be construed as simple self-indulgence, ie ‘sod the topic, the arguments etc;’, I’m just out to have fun…

But SURELY you don’t mean any such thing?!!

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:16:38 +0000

Thanks, Martyn, that’s pretty clear.

But can you really say that apart from realising all that isn’t for you and that you see through all the rubbish etc., that you haven’t benefited one iota from being with a spiritual teacher or (heaven forbid) even with your fellow ‘seekers’?

Have you ever tried being with someone who doesn’t talk at all? Eg Amma (although she does occasionally make a speech on her annual visits to London) or Mother Meera? You never know, you might find it refreshing at some level or other….

By: martyn

martyn — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:13:38 +0000

for me the story telling is the medium, not the debated positions…

By: martyn

martyn — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:10:33 +0000

and satya-d ….
I can’t tell you whether me taking the P**s is good for you , but its great for me……and either way alls well….

I don’t keep a check of its spiritual value…only of how much it makes me laugh…