Comments on: How Still was Osho? The Watch Test

By: Karima

Karima — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:32:55 +0000

Silence in the market place,
Silence in all these stories,
Silence in the chatterdychat mind,
Silence in all these opinions,
Silence in this crazy world,
was this not the message of Osho?
Amen

By: sannyasnews

sannyasnews — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 16:51:25 +0000

From Sannyasnews:
Because of Martyn’s sometimes very difficult to understand prose there was a misunderstanding re his first para. It is now corrected, Martyn was referring to the annual slaughter of animals to appease meat eaters at xmas, not to the one off slaughter of innocent children by Herod at the first Christmas. We apologise if we inadvertently misunderstood Martyn’s drift.

By: shantam

shantam — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:27:48 +0000

To create Beautiful World from beautiful Words is as arduous and life consuming work as to bring water or sewerage pipe into every house.
Problem with spiritual seekers, specially Osho Sannyasins and His readers is that they become too much hypnotised with the Words of their path founder. In that sense, my heart feels immense reverence for people passionately rooted in Christianity, through sheer motivation and grit, they have built an amazing civilization out from a very ordinary book; The Bible.
Marry Christmas!!

By: martyn

martyn — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:27:42 +0000

Of course Xmas time is a great time of year….well apart from the slaughter of all those innocent animals….

And thanks also to this Czeh man Havel ..who will remain for many many of us testament, to the coming out from our introverted ghettoes of obedience whether psychological or social , religious or ambitious …
because
we can…..
because playfulness and intelligence are man’s best friends….
and now the world has seen what a libertarian humanist bohemian like Havel is capable of .. its no longer a dream to live in our world and not the world made by others who are incapable of it…if you want to practice the same way that is…

and this also means freedom from non-dissenting ‘osho new men and women’ who offer incomprehensible medicinal self awareness self improvement psycho babble routines through years of burdened behaviour shaping rituals… at weekend liberation events for cash….in ever declining circles…that look glossy and bourgeois by comparison. Especially cos..

all you have to do is proclaim and live it…
because you are..
the spirit of living your life doesn’t get much better than this…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=-BIxnIF0cVM

and I’m not denying for one minute the radiance of the divine light from osho….but self awareness is more accessible living freely bohemian …than in bouncing up and down communually trying to find it instead,(!!!???) whilst shedding your other voices in favour of one singular meditative one.

By: sagara

sagara — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:18:40 +0000

That chap, Shantam, certainly would not have any problems with a self-winding watch as he obviously does a lot of wrist movements. I mean to say, ‘once in a while it is not bad to clarify one´s stand’ takes ineuendo to a new level.

By: shantam

shantam — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:41:47 +0000

Martyn this is for you, just like one of the candles among many candles in the church.
You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.
~ Nietzsche ~
Thanks to God…for sending his son in December ( or to the fiction writers who created such wonderful story). festivity about his happy birthday is creating warmth for centuries, when there is melancholic cold all around.

By: martyn

martyn — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:08:10 +0000

i trust you speaketh to the one known as Shant Am and not me
anyway
a xmas message for all here from me…

http://www.star28.net/snow.html?msg=ENPENGUINMENT and JOY TO ALL

By: Arpana

Arpana — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:43:32 +0000

There you go again. Sweeping statements. Assumptions. How do you all this about all the western sannyasiins. You don’t . You assume whatever fits your prejudices.

By: martyn

martyn — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:40:26 +0000

Because shantam and all the lost confused people in oshodom like you.. of which there are thousands ….i wasn’t ‘passively’ nurtured.. i gave him my trusting sexuality/relationships etc to alternately abuse and enjoy/indulge via gonzo therapists and the language of obedient growth and ….he gave me his spiritual energy and energy darshan and slightly still does by linked transference when listening to his voice…once a sucker always a sucker

BUT .. it was a quid pro quo and nobody owes anybody anything …not even a thank you or apology..because it was all done in the name of self interest…you win or lose its tough titties in oshodom…

if there had not been, via virulent borrowed condemnation of our so-called ‘conditioning’ (..me i’m nowhere near even being a cuckoo Indian conditioned sexually hidden sikh-er-osho-freak-aholic)…….then the sabotage of ‘rebellious anyways’ decent people (me) with such an anti-democratic humourless authoritarian principle at work, …(and there still is via osho approved borrowed language hurdles such as i’m deeper than you, i’m more aware., more groups, more powerful groups,. you’re off , you have to open up , you are just not letting go …and there still is because have you heard ‘trust me.. i’m an osho self appointed shrink guide meditation chakra advisor etc etc… ‘

……..then…..i might have cared about preserving in aspic a singular version of Osho’s contribution to humanity/me …as it is i’m liable to smile, bow gracefully , laugh, whinge take the piss and give him two fingers … just to prove its all part of the game….
so take your anti religion religion of whatever colour and go stick it up your chapatti.. including any tibetan flags too…
oh and one more thing after another ride on the public metro i don’t give a stuff about saving humanity either.. just like you don’t give a stuff about eating cow burgers…

clear enough shantam ? though i do use a lot of words sorry bout that but, I think my message is not borrowed one of disposable words but lived out in many shades of sannyasin life.. and because its not so facile and full of happy clappiness as a solution to life’s little upsets of how still or not you are.. that’s your business not mine….

and i’ve never recommended a commune to anyone though i know a lot of people who should have needed to really put their arse on the line and live in one…just to find out how shitty it could get…and still come out breathing… just !

By: alokjohn

alokjohn — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:49:42 +0000

I am a fast speed reader and I still think it is doubtful unless he is just skimming, reading a page here and a paragraph there.