Thorough questions. I cannot give a quick answer to them.

Maybe it is also intuition – a gut feeling – in the moment that tells to ‘move on’ – ‘move out’.
To find (more) clarity, to sort things out without constant input. In this sense.

Bc of “T and N personalities” – inside and outside:
https://www.oshonews.com/2023/09/27/t-and-n-personalities/

“Like Ice in the Sunshine
I am melting away
on this sunny day.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVn37JBdvgY

Have a nice day.

Adriano C.
‘I want to know’ – vorrei sapere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFH4ajRs9HU

As with freedom, how can you be truly motivated to pursue joy if you don’t know what to do with it?
Can the pursuit of joy arise simply from the memory of having lost it?
Or does that pursuit arise from compassion for those who have never experienced it?

Can the pain of others distress us to the point of making us outsiders to each other?
How can you seek joy and be an outsider in the face of a small community of joyful misfits, black belts among the outsiders?

I think it’s more likely that the invitation to take an outsider approach, from an insider of such a community, concerns the phase in which you still live in a community of the dead who ask you to bury other dead, that is, while you haven’t yet found/known joy.

Impv, Osho’s legacy is not a worldly one. He showed us and those who are indeed interested the path to inner freedom. Exemplary.
To this end, we need meditation – active ones, still ones. And therapy to clear out learned reactions and misunderstandings.
Hierarchical organisation in the practical world has got its limitations – Fehler des Bodenpersonals sind unvermeidlich.

To progress, we need quality in the practice. In the teachings. In the support. Whenever one finds better quality and or accessibility someplace else. One should go for it.

Imo, the range of methods offered with Osho is quite wide. As a consequence, one might not go far enough in a method to integrate and fully understand what one is doing. As an individual.

Before I took Sannyas, I practised Vipassana insight meditation – in India and in Myanmar for about one year. Almost non-stop. I have been lucky to find (the best of) teachers at the time. Looking back, I regret that I did not continue for longer. Such is life.

In Sannyas, I was not really comfortable: I am more of an outsider (see fitting sannyas letter).
I admire people who benefitted in their personal growth through Sannyas. Truly.

Since 1980 (first meditation retreat in Bodhgaya) I have done lots of practice, including getting four professional certificates, completing psychotherapy (CG Jung and Systemische), a lot of self-retreats meditating alone.

Me feels, this all does something to one’s inner life. I’m dreaming really of having again the opportunity to spend another full year of meditation for instance in Myanmar.
When talking to people in Myanmar, they speak about their meditation practice openly. And know some of the underlying bookish teachings. People told me to “come back for your next stage of meditation.”

I have got zero commercial interest in meditation, Sannyas, zikhr practice and all the other spiritual materialism.

Hope this is not too convoluted.

If you look at the number 1 Sannyas principle there is no doubt what could it be:
Meditate or drop Sannyas!

For me meditation can be found anywhere but sometimes it may be around but I don’t care what it may be called, or what it is.

Attempted meditation for me always was a kind of artificial trick that had little effect.
But as a sannyasin I needed to agree on it.
Nobody dares to doubt he may have gained anything through “meditating” for this belief had to be repeated automatically for decades or you somehow excluded yourself from ourchurchless church.

Meditation – if real at all – has notchanged me or anyone in a deep way at all, but nobody in our sangha, sect, group, identification system
will say it loud…won’t even think about it, because without that speciality he is Nothing.

For me, LSD was a million times stronger than any guided or accidental meditation, but I always knew acid is just a temporary thing – not a healthy or useful excursion for more than a few times…Meditation should have been the real thing to surpass ‘altered states’ which just didn’t come naturally by your own doing and ability…But it didn’t.

India and later on living in German meditation centres and then again on my own – was just a life of any other human being – nothing special, nothing more important, consious or whatever – deep, intelligent, aware, etc. at all.

Will anyone say this could be true for him as well? Is “meditation” anything more than just another religious dogma? Is this idea of meditation needed to justify the position of ‘Sannyas’in (y)our life?

Be honest. Be serious. Have fun.

MOD:
Veet Tom, I found the second part of the penultimate paragraph of this post confusing so I altered it a bit. Is it ok now?

(Subhuti)

NOW about Subhuti visiting the old Ashram a few weeks ago.
He used to be part of the press office and wrote some books also on Sannyas and that about the “Wild Wild Guru” (!)

I took his fb-post and gave it to Suno to use as lyrics for an Indian-style song. Another AI revitalized that original
photo, used in most of the YouTube video. I only work with those free giveaways of 5 or 10 seconds per month, ’cause
I won’t pay for more – but I like it!

So here’s Subhuti 's facebook greeting surounded by two AIs, and my Premiere editing – Namasté and enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3A08p8nC18

MOD:
Hi Subhuti, can you clarify, please, the three places (two near the top, one near the end) where there’s & followed by lt; or #039;s, ?

But please feel free to carry on commenting under this one if you’re so inclined!

One of the things he talks about is how human consciousness is currently under siege, that research into animals has proven that some other animals experience consciousness, and he also talks about AI, which some say approaches consciousness. His says that just because something is conscious that doesn’t mean we give it personhood, and he talks about AI as mimicking consciousness rather than truly experiencing it. Very interesting stuff.

Pollan said that this new book on consciousness came forth from the previous book on psychedelics called ‘How to Change Your Mind’, in which he examines the history of psychedelics, their therapeutic effects, their religious heritage and explores first hand the effects. He found it illuminating to see his mind from new perspectives.

For me, a new Michael Pollan book is a treat, he writes well, is eminently readable and goes into good depth with his research. I can thoroughly recommend ‘How to Change Your Mind’ which is sitting on my bookshelf.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/feb/08/michael-pollan-psychedelics-consciousness+