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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s in a Name?  Nityaprem poses the question&#8230;Plus: Responses to &#8216;Children of The Cult&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Nityaprem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/12089#comment-117149</link>
		<dc:creator>Nityaprem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 16:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“That&#039;s what I go on doing: I give you a name and create a device around it. I give you a name so that you can remember your device, you can remember your technique, so that it becomes a constant mindfulness for you, a reminder, an arrow pointing out your path continuously.”
(Osho, ‘A Sudden Clash of Thunder’)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“That&#8217;s what I go on doing: I give you a name and create a device around it. I give you a name so that you can remember your device, you can remember your technique, so that it becomes a constant mindfulness for you, a reminder, an arrow pointing out your path continuously.”<br />
(Osho, ‘A Sudden Clash of Thunder’)</p>
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		<title>By: teema</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/12089#comment-116443</link>
		<dc:creator>teema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2024 01:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dearest SD,

I loved this.  Thank you for taking the time to share it with us.

MOD:
I think you mean Frank, don&#039;t you, Teema?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest SD,</p>
<p>I loved this.  Thank you for taking the time to share it with us.</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
I think you mean Frank, don&#8217;t you, Teema?</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/12089#comment-116026</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 21:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for putting out your rubbish. Perhaps someone will collect it in the morning, although it&#039;s hardly worth recycling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for putting out your rubbish. Perhaps someone will collect it in the morning, although it&#8217;s hardly worth recycling.</p>
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		<title>By: Freak</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/12089#comment-116025</link>
		<dc:creator>Freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 21:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I “enjoy displaying as monsters” those people, do I, Veet F? What makes you so sure of this?&quot; 

You are the one who broke the news of the screening of the documentary in theatres on the forum, you did it in a neutral way even though it is blatantly dramatising information material for scandal purposes.

You also changed the title of the topic of the page, referring to an article by Nityaprem who nobly seemed to want to deconstruct the sannyasin namr with the sincere intent of rediscovering the meaning of his name, before returning to his Christian baptismal name.

Lokesh who returns only to insult retarded people like you who try with little conviction to explain that what you are part of is not a cult.

The renegade Nityaprem (a friend on Facebook of the nostalgic renegade, a devotee of the Grateful Dead and chemical shortcuts) disseminates links in the forum, articles and initiatives announcing the deposition of the corpse of the malignant narcissist in the toilet of history.

But all this seems to put you in a good mood, a sudden optimism towards the disciples of Osho, except people blinded by fanaticism like me, about the outcome of this story, dictated by a revolutionary determinism that would make an orthodox Marxist proletarian of the 20s envious.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I “enjoy displaying as monsters” those people, do I, Veet F? What makes you so sure of this?&#8221; </p>
<p>You are the one who broke the news of the screening of the documentary in theatres on the forum, you did it in a neutral way even though it is blatantly dramatising information material for scandal purposes.</p>
<p>You also changed the title of the topic of the page, referring to an article by Nityaprem who nobly seemed to want to deconstruct the sannyasin namr with the sincere intent of rediscovering the meaning of his name, before returning to his Christian baptismal name.</p>
<p>Lokesh who returns only to insult retarded people like you who try with little conviction to explain that what you are part of is not a cult.</p>
<p>The renegade Nityaprem (a friend on Facebook of the nostalgic renegade, a devotee of the Grateful Dead and chemical shortcuts) disseminates links in the forum, articles and initiatives announcing the deposition of the corpse of the malignant narcissist in the toilet of history.</p>
<p>But all this seems to put you in a good mood, a sudden optimism towards the disciples of Osho, except people blinded by fanaticism like me, about the outcome of this story, dictated by a revolutionary determinism that would make an orthodox Marxist proletarian of the 20s envious.</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/12089#comment-116023</link>
		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 19:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes,  Nityaprem/Optimus Priemus, no need to accept him if you have been put off by one documentary or anything else you have read. If you can’t trust anymore, why hang around? Sannyas is always free to drop and there is no hell for those who decide to leave. It was never like the cult of Christianity anti-cult groups with their heavens and hells. 

Your doubts won&#039;t affect anyone’s else’s trust.

Perhaps you could try Buddhism, plenty of rules and regulations and even heavens and hells. But Buddhism comes from an old Indian/Nepali master who was 2,500 years old. 

Yours sincerely, 
Megatron ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,  Nityaprem/Optimus Priemus, no need to accept him if you have been put off by one documentary or anything else you have read. If you can’t trust anymore, why hang around? Sannyas is always free to drop and there is no hell for those who decide to leave. It was never like the cult of Christianity anti-cult groups with their heavens and hells. </p>
<p>Your doubts won&#8217;t affect anyone’s else’s trust.</p>
<p>Perhaps you could try Buddhism, plenty of rules and regulations and even heavens and hells. But Buddhism comes from an old Indian/Nepali master who was 2,500 years old. </p>
<p>Yours sincerely,<br />
Megatron </p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/12089#comment-116022</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 15:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, point taken.

And please bear in mind how consistently insulting you&#039;ve been during your time here, Veet F. Which helps to explain how little response to your contributions you ever get; basically, no one wants to interact with you. 

Perhaps you should consider this before you write anything and check any impulse to make snide, abusive remarks, however potentially gratifying the prospect might feel. It&#039;s only non-essential egoic nonsense after all...

So now we move on, enough of this point-scoring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, point taken.</p>
<p>And please bear in mind how consistently insulting you&#8217;ve been during your time here, Veet F. Which helps to explain how little response to your contributions you ever get; basically, no one wants to interact with you. </p>
<p>Perhaps you should consider this before you write anything and check any impulse to make snide, abusive remarks, however potentially gratifying the prospect might feel. It&#8217;s only non-essential egoic nonsense after all&#8230;</p>
<p>So now we move on, enough of this point-scoring.</p>
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		<title>By: Freak</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/12089#comment-116021</link>
		<dc:creator>Freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 15:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nityaprem, had you already decided to change your name before joining this chat?

Be careful, the host here doesn&#039;t like those with hidden agendas.

What does your new name mean?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nityaprem, had you already decided to change your name before joining this chat?</p>
<p>Be careful, the host here doesn&#8217;t like those with hidden agendas.</p>
<p>What does your new name mean?</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/12089#comment-116020</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 15:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The problem is that the people you enjoy displaying as monsters on screens today are probably just a tool for an agenda that aims to destroy the work done by Osho, with his golden keys to manage internal and external (political) conflicts.&quot;

I &quot;enjoy displaying as monsters&quot; those people, do I, Veet F? What makes you so sure of this? 

You cite &quot;an agenda that aims to destroy the work done by Osho, with his golden keys to manage internal and external (political) conflicts.&quot;  Unfortunately, anyone with such an agenda has been given plenty of information, ammunition even, with which to carry it out and even succeed. Including Osho&#039;s own errors, notably his inability, through appointing the wrong people to run the Ranch, to effectively &quot;manage internal and external (political) conflicts.&quot; That you can not see this speaks volumes about how blind you are, more evidence of the sometimes fine line between devotional committment - unseasoned by good judgment based on common sense - and politico-religious fanaticism, often based on insecurity, an overwhelming need for &#039;certainty&#039;.

However, it seems there&#039;s no need for anyone to despair, to imagine that Osho&#039;s huge efforts to wake us (the human race, via &#039;his&#039; segment of the world&#039;s population) might or will fail (or have failed) merely because of such public scandals and flaws. As I&#039;ve said before, the truth apparently is that his influence on the people who&#039;ve truly imbibed his teachings and his rare energy will not be lost, it already is and will be further well established in the collective psyche as a resource from which future generations will be able to draw, helping to transform humanity. 

He in effect stated this when he declared that despite opposition, his way would become more and more significant in the future of spirituality, it was unstoppable because it was the truth, whose time had come, emphasising the joy of Life, the life of joy, the joy of living. 

Barry Long said likewise about how great Truth, once expressed enough, accepted and lived by enough people, can not fail, however bleak world circumstances might become. And as, I think, Werner Erhard said, &quot;There is nothing as powerful as an idea whose time has come.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The problem is that the people you enjoy displaying as monsters on screens today are probably just a tool for an agenda that aims to destroy the work done by Osho, with his golden keys to manage internal and external (political) conflicts.&#8221;</p>
<p>I &#8220;enjoy displaying as monsters&#8221; those people, do I, Veet F? What makes you so sure of this? </p>
<p>You cite &#8220;an agenda that aims to destroy the work done by Osho, with his golden keys to manage internal and external (political) conflicts.&#8221;  Unfortunately, anyone with such an agenda has been given plenty of information, ammunition even, with which to carry it out and even succeed. Including Osho&#8217;s own errors, notably his inability, through appointing the wrong people to run the Ranch, to effectively &#8220;manage internal and external (political) conflicts.&#8221; That you can not see this speaks volumes about how blind you are, more evidence of the sometimes fine line between devotional committment &#8211; unseasoned by good judgment based on common sense &#8211; and politico-religious fanaticism, often based on insecurity, an overwhelming need for &#8216;certainty&#8217;.</p>
<p>However, it seems there&#8217;s no need for anyone to despair, to imagine that Osho&#8217;s huge efforts to wake us (the human race, via &#8216;his&#8217; segment of the world&#8217;s population) might or will fail (or have failed) merely because of such public scandals and flaws. As I&#8217;ve said before, the truth apparently is that his influence on the people who&#8217;ve truly imbibed his teachings and his rare energy will not be lost, it already is and will be further well established in the collective psyche as a resource from which future generations will be able to draw, helping to transform humanity. </p>
<p>He in effect stated this when he declared that despite opposition, his way would become more and more significant in the future of spirituality, it was unstoppable because it was the truth, whose time had come, emphasising the joy of Life, the life of joy, the joy of living. </p>
<p>Barry Long said likewise about how great Truth, once expressed enough, accepted and lived by enough people, can not fail, however bleak world circumstances might become. And as, I think, Werner Erhard said, &#8220;There is nothing as powerful as an idea whose time has come.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Freak</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/12089#comment-116019</link>
		<dc:creator>Freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 15:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There was nothing that qualified as “insults” in Lokesh’s last post, Veet F. End of discussion, we’re moving on.&quot; 

&quot;One only needs to read some of the warped comments posted by retards like Veet Francesco to see that.&quot;

MOD:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There was nothing that qualified as “insults” in Lokesh’s last post, Veet F. End of discussion, we’re moving on.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;One only needs to read some of the warped comments posted by retards like Veet Francesco to see that.&#8221;</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Post edited (insults deleted). </p>
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		<title>By: satchit</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/12089#comment-116018</link>
		<dc:creator>satchit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 14:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No need to accept him.
Life goes on.

Times of change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to accept him.<br />
Life goes on.</p>
<p>Times of change.</p>
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