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		<title>By: VeetTom</title>
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		<dc:creator>VeetTom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2024 00:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am very close to trusting you.
Some technlcal problem may have been the reason.

A real and very easy way to help might be to allow all posts and don&#039;t control them before they reach these pages. This is for all to read, btw.

MOD:
Your suggestion won&#039;t make any difference, VT, as such deletions have been made in already published posts. It&#039;s annoying, but it&#039;s something we&#039;ll have to live with at an insecure site, without the necessary funds to make radical changes.

Besides, posts need to be screened to avoid people getting away with offensive, abusive comments. I can&#039;t always be on hand to check what comes in immediately, now and then I might be out for a few hours or occasionally even longer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very close to trusting you.<br />
Some technlcal problem may have been the reason.</p>
<p>A real and very easy way to help might be to allow all posts and don&#8217;t control them before they reach these pages. This is for all to read, btw.</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Your suggestion won&#8217;t make any difference, VT, as such deletions have been made in already published posts. It&#8217;s annoying, but it&#8217;s something we&#8217;ll have to live with at an insecure site, without the necessary funds to make radical changes.</p>
<p>Besides, posts need to be screened to avoid people getting away with offensive, abusive comments. I can&#8217;t always be on hand to check what comes in immediately, now and then I might be out for a few hours or occasionally even longer.</p>
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		<title>By: VeetTom</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/11600#comment-114654</link>
		<dc:creator>VeetTom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 00:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Veet F, this is Veet T speaking... ;-)

Only saw your words now on the 20th - 10 days later! You are mentioning some real thing here. I understand your anger on being warned by the admin and me as his yeah-sayer. I later felt I was stupid - but didn&#039;t show it.

I was ready to leave this board when I saw my last post deleted two times now. Maybe the mod was confused about my wish to delete a crippled last part of that article, where the first two parts were taken away by him, or by accident? He may also be an old man - and I know from my experience that old minds have certain memory-blackouts here and there.

So maybe he didn&#039;t want to censor me? Did you, mod?

MOD:
Veet Tom, I&#039;ve already replied twice to your enquiries about this issue, via your personal email. 

I repeat, I did not delete anything from your post and have no idea what happened. 

P.S:
I might be &quot;an old man&quot; but I don&#039;t suffer from merntal &quot;blackouts&quot;, I&#039;m fine in that respect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Veet F, this is Veet T speaking&#8230; <img src='http://sannyasnews.org/now/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Only saw your words now on the 20th &#8211; 10 days later! You are mentioning some real thing here. I understand your anger on being warned by the admin and me as his yeah-sayer. I later felt I was stupid &#8211; but didn&#8217;t show it.</p>
<p>I was ready to leave this board when I saw my last post deleted two times now. Maybe the mod was confused about my wish to delete a crippled last part of that article, where the first two parts were taken away by him, or by accident? He may also be an old man &#8211; and I know from my experience that old minds have certain memory-blackouts here and there.</p>
<p>So maybe he didn&#8217;t want to censor me? Did you, mod?</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Veet Tom, I&#8217;ve already replied twice to your enquiries about this issue, via your personal email. </p>
<p>I repeat, I did not delete anything from your post and have no idea what happened. </p>
<p>P.S:<br />
I might be &#8220;an old man&#8221; but I don&#8217;t suffer from merntal &#8220;blackouts&#8221;, I&#8217;m fine in that respect.</p>
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		<title>By: veet francesco</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/11600#comment-114446</link>
		<dc:creator>veet francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2024 12:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Veet Tom, if you think what I write here is offensive or irrelevant you could directly ask me to stop or leave the forum, and not encourage SD to kick me out.

I believe that already in Poona One there was a dialectical relationship between the people in charge who had to enforce the rules and those who only had to apply rules for themselves.

One day a friend of mine came to Poona, he liked Osho, intellectually (today, 15 years later, he&#039;s different, he&#039;s much more in the heart and less in the genitals as a thirty-year-old), and he really liked women, almost the opposite of what happened to me when I lived in that buddhafield, loving Osho and having an intellectual interest in my dynamics with the female world, having there the necessary space for a detached observation which in Zorba&#039;s fast and chaotic world was not always possible.

We sat at the smoking temple to chat and he took out a joint and lit it, to my surprise a sense of amazement mixed with scandal came over me. Usually out of there, overlooking my anti-prohibitionist positions, if he had offered it to me I would have taken a couple of puffs too, but thereafter the surprise I felt a certain anger towards that dickhead.

I believe that this testifies to the fact that by and large, love for a Master like Osho encourages people to give their best in many aspects of behaviour, and not for the rules themselves but possibly through them, that is, to create a relationship of trust also with people in power, but only when their action is experienced as a practical expression of the shared existential vision.

Days ago I was reading an old article on this topic, it would seem that in the neo-sannyasin world the relationship with the rules has always been rather dialectical and much less dogmatic, even when the rules were embodied by Sheela and her gang.

https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3575

MOD:
Veet F, your &quot;averagely&quot; (or, as you suggested, &quot;on average&quot;) has been altered to &quot;by and large&quot;, meaning &#039;usually&#039;, &#039;on the whole&#039;, &#039;more often than not&#039;. Let is know if you prefer one of these alternatives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veet Tom, if you think what I write here is offensive or irrelevant you could directly ask me to stop or leave the forum, and not encourage SD to kick me out.</p>
<p>I believe that already in Poona One there was a dialectical relationship between the people in charge who had to enforce the rules and those who only had to apply rules for themselves.</p>
<p>One day a friend of mine came to Poona, he liked Osho, intellectually (today, 15 years later, he&#8217;s different, he&#8217;s much more in the heart and less in the genitals as a thirty-year-old), and he really liked women, almost the opposite of what happened to me when I lived in that buddhafield, loving Osho and having an intellectual interest in my dynamics with the female world, having there the necessary space for a detached observation which in Zorba&#8217;s fast and chaotic world was not always possible.</p>
<p>We sat at the smoking temple to chat and he took out a joint and lit it, to my surprise a sense of amazement mixed with scandal came over me. Usually out of there, overlooking my anti-prohibitionist positions, if he had offered it to me I would have taken a couple of puffs too, but thereafter the surprise I felt a certain anger towards that dickhead.</p>
<p>I believe that this testifies to the fact that by and large, love for a Master like Osho encourages people to give their best in many aspects of behaviour, and not for the rules themselves but possibly through them, that is, to create a relationship of trust also with people in power, but only when their action is experienced as a practical expression of the shared existential vision.</p>
<p>Days ago I was reading an old article on this topic, it would seem that in the neo-sannyasin world the relationship with the rules has always been rather dialectical and much less dogmatic, even when the rules were embodied by Sheela and her gang.</p>
<p><a href="https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3575" rel="nofollow">https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3575</a></p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Veet F, your &#8220;averagely&#8221; (or, as you suggested, &#8220;on average&#8221;) has been altered to &#8220;by and large&#8221;, meaning &#8216;usually&#8217;, &#8216;on the whole&#8217;, &#8216;more often than not&#8217;. Let is know if you prefer one of these alternatives.</p>
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		<title>By: VeetTom</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/11600#comment-114429</link>
		<dc:creator>VeetTom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2024 00:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;an altar boy in Monsignor Satyadeva’s parish.&quot;
Got the picture.
Ok, I may have deserved that, haha...

In Poona One, when I was a guard, we had to look into the guards&#039; book for training reasons where photos of some cuckoos, a few madmen or even dangerous people were shown with a little text to it. 

Reading your sophisticated stuff, Veet F, there pops up a feeling you could have been mentioned there: &quot;Don&#039;t worry, he is doing no harm, but tries to enter Buddha Hall without paying the fee or likes to be strolling around in the area &#039;for residents only&#039;. Gently but straightforwardly show him the way out.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;an altar boy in Monsignor Satyadeva’s parish.&#8221;<br />
Got the picture.<br />
Ok, I may have deserved that, haha&#8230;</p>
<p>In Poona One, when I was a guard, we had to look into the guards&#8217; book for training reasons where photos of some cuckoos, a few madmen or even dangerous people were shown with a little text to it. </p>
<p>Reading your sophisticated stuff, Veet F, there pops up a feeling you could have been mentioned there: &#8220;Don&#8217;t worry, he is doing no harm, but tries to enter Buddha Hall without paying the fee or likes to be strolling around in the area &#8216;for residents only&#8217;. Gently but straightforwardly show him the way out.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: veet francesco</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/11600#comment-114425</link>
		<dc:creator>veet francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 21:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SD, there is an Italian (Neapolitan) dialect expression that describes your way of cheating at cards, &quot;a culo apierte&quot; (with your ass wide open, it means doing something without shame, with greed), and you expect me to get fleeced like a chicken from you, so that you can then offer a drink to your Scottish hero?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD, there is an Italian (Neapolitan) dialect expression that describes your way of cheating at cards, &#8220;a culo apierte&#8221; (with your ass wide open, it means doing something without shame, with greed), and you expect me to get fleeced like a chicken from you, so that you can then offer a drink to your Scottish hero?</p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/11600#comment-114423</link>
		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 20:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ 
Well, he had something about being gay added on the end of it which you must have removed.

MOD:
You&#039;re confusing two different posts, Shanti. I deleted the offending part of the one you mention here when it was pointed out. Re the other one, re-read my comment below Veet&#039;s post.

SHANTI: 
I saw something which was added into his post which he posted as an update. 

MOD:
But it&#039;s all right now, isn&#039;t it?

SHANTI: 
Yes. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>
Well, he had something about being gay added on the end of it which you must have removed.</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
You&#8217;re confusing two different posts, Shanti. I deleted the offending part of the one you mention here when it was pointed out. Re the other one, re-read my comment below Veet&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>SHANTI:<br />
I saw something which was added into his post which he posted as an update. </p>
<p>MOD:<br />
But it&#8217;s all right now, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>SHANTI:<br />
Yes. </p>
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		<title>By: veet francesco</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/11600#comment-114422</link>
		<dc:creator>veet francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 20:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SD, do you have any idea about the last manipulation on my comment?
My comment was this: &quot;Veet Tom, I’m sorry you’re angry with me, I like you, you seem innocent, like an altar boy in Monsignor Satyadeva’s parish.&quot;

MOD:
That&#039;s the comment that&#039;s already there, Veet. Otherwise, I&#039;ve no idea about any &quot;manipulation&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD, do you have any idea about the last manipulation on my comment?<br />
My comment was this: &#8220;Veet Tom, I’m sorry you’re angry with me, I like you, you seem innocent, like an altar boy in Monsignor Satyadeva’s parish.&#8221;</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
That&#8217;s the comment that&#8217;s already there, Veet. Otherwise, I&#8217;ve no idea about any &#8220;manipulation&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/11600#comment-114420</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 19:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Veet, playing the disingenuous card really doesn&#039;t suit you, lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veet, playing the disingenuous card really doesn&#8217;t suit you, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Nityaprem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/11600#comment-114416</link>
		<dc:creator>Nityaprem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 18:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s true, I think it’s partially because there have been so few homes for sannyasins online. OshoNews, OshoWorld, they tend to project the image but they are not a home for an online community. Maybe the Facebook sannyas groups are more a thing? 

It’s a great shame that so many anti-establishment thinkers turned into conspiracy theorists. In a way, esoteric thinking goes together with hard-to-believe underground theories, my hard-headed engineering training wants to find less flattering words for these people but I have a kind of fondness for them…

But look, for instance, at Graham Hancock, there is someone whose anti-establishment thinking is slowly turning the science on its head. I was watching some long discussions between him and Joe Rogan, fascinating stuff on ancient civilisations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s true, I think it’s partially because there have been so few homes for sannyasins online. OshoNews, OshoWorld, they tend to project the image but they are not a home for an online community. Maybe the Facebook sannyas groups are more a thing? </p>
<p>It’s a great shame that so many anti-establishment thinkers turned into conspiracy theorists. In a way, esoteric thinking goes together with hard-to-believe underground theories, my hard-headed engineering training wants to find less flattering words for these people but I have a kind of fondness for them…</p>
<p>But look, for instance, at Graham Hancock, there is someone whose anti-establishment thinking is slowly turning the science on its head. I was watching some long discussions between him and Joe Rogan, fascinating stuff on ancient civilisations.</p>
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		<title>By: veet francesco</title>
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		<dc:creator>veet francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2024 17:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If so, SD, and we are all friends of Osho, why are you not happy and want to kick me out?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If so, SD, and we are all friends of Osho, why are you not happy and want to kick me out?</p>
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