Comments on: POSITIVE VIBRATIONS, by Lokesh

By: satchit

satchit — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:56:03 +0000

The places you mentioned did already exist before Neo-Sannyas.

Sannyas is a play that has no purpose.
It is not a game that has a goal.
The beauty is there because it has life and death.

By: Nityaprem

Nityaprem — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 10:56:25 +0000

You know, I don’t think Sannyas was purposeless. It gave a different impulse to spirituality in the West, which still persists in places like the new age, hippy communities, spiritual festivals and so on.

By: satchit

satchit — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 07:49:37 +0000

Nobody knows if this tailor pocket story is true or invented. You can believe it or not. He did much of his teaching by telling stories.

Fact is, Sannyas is also a very purposeless enterprise.

By: Nityaprem

Nityaprem — Sat, 08 Jul 2023 18:42:29 +0000

I think the point is more that love is the purpose, and the more you love, whether it is stones, life or people, the more fulfilled you will be.

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Sat, 08 Jul 2023 16:15:22 +0000

Osho claimed that he was not a sentimentalist. Yet reading the above post, I can’t help feeling, not for the first time, that Osho was sentimental about his childhood. I also thought this when reading ‘Glimpses of a Golden Childhood’. For me, one of his best books, even though Osho, in true Sagittarian style, exaggerates.

The post concludes with, “I love people, but there is no purpose.”
I reflected on that. I love a few people. There is no purpose driving that love. One just loves people, and that is it. So, I do not find anything special about what Osho is saying in this case. Pretty normal, if you ask me.

By: Nityaprem

Nityaprem — Sat, 08 Jul 2023 12:36:04 +0000

“In my childhood I had a beautiful river by my village. And my tailor was in great difficulty, because I had to force him to make as many pockets on my dress as possible. He said, ”But you go on telling everyone that I am your tailor, and if they see all these pockets they will think I have gone mad. So if you promise me that you will say that the tailor across the street is your tailor, I am ready. But don’t mention my name to anybody.”

He said, ”And for what do you need so many pockets?”
I said, ”You will not understand. You can ask my father.”

The need was that around the river there were such beautiful coloured stones, so shining in the sun, that I would collect them and fill all my pockets. I would come home and my mother would be very angry: ”You spoil your dress. You make a mockery of all of us having so many pockets. Nobody has ever heard…your dress is just pockets and pockets. And then you come with all kinds of useless stones. What is the purpose of these stones?”
I said, ”I have never thought about the purpose – I love them.” And that was enough.

I love life, but there is no purpose.
I love people, but there is no purpose.”

(Osho, ‘The Sword and the Lotus’)

By: Nityaprem

Nityaprem — Thu, 06 Jul 2023 14:36:14 +0000

Thanks Lokesh, it was interesting. It would have been nice of Nisargadatta to just complete the teaching, but maybe that would have been too easy.

In som aspects witnessing is similar to mindfulness, which the Buddha explored in quite a lot of detail. Worth thinking about anyway.

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:46:39 +0000

NP, perhaps you will find this interesting.

http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8364

By: Nityaprem

Nityaprem — Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:54:37 +0000

Right, witnessing without judgment as a knack.

Nisargadatta once said that talking about just witnessing was an incomplete teaching. Another interesting tidbit.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Wed, 05 Jul 2023 10:33:34 +0000

To put it more clearly, the process of withdrawing from identifying with the mind.