I wonder by what standard Klaus would draw the line of political correctness of words/thoughts, not even being sure where he would draw the line of good/bad deeds.

Disagreeing with him on where to draw the line on therapeutic freedom, I think Klaus is very scared of lab viruses by Fauci, maybe we wouldn’t even agree on where to draw the line at Guantanamo, the fear of Islamic terrorism, “thanks” to the Twin Towers, continues to justify many emergency measures, including the political correctness which forbids making alternative hypotheses to such casus belli, with all those storms in the desert that followed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test

That it is not the “politically correct” the cause of our communication difficulties is your point of view, I take it into account, I hope you do the same with mine.

My polemic about the Advaita approach, I hope you at least acknowledge my constructive intent (it costs me a lot to express myself in the language of empire), is that it is functional enough to make acceptable our splashing around in the postmodern pond, designed for us by market ideology through media devices.

The Indian standstill denounced by Osho, when it is enough to close your eyes not to see that we are in the middle of a landfill, is an option only if we have no legs to look for healthier places.

Giving up the dual approach at the basis of every logical mathematical process of a Zorba, for example the one that makes us choose between a mountain forest and a landfill or between an insect flour pizza and a traditional Roman one (unlike the Neapolitan one it has a longer leavening, therefore more digestible), risks making us experience the choice not to choose as a free choice, given that everything is fluidly One.

MOD:
Veet Francesco, what exactly does “TINA” (first paragraph) stand for?

VEET FRANCESCO:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_is_no_alternative

It is not about politics. So it is not about being politically correct or whatever.

It is about finding out about oneself.

And certainly about one’s assholeness part – or even parts. If that is where one is at.

Like it or not.

All the best, Klaus, we will have to lift a stein of Hefenweize together sometime….

But I think being rich is often an impediment to having a good heart, and if you ask me which I would rather have, money or a positive attitude, I’d take the latter every time.

About my way of “bringing a little more Osho into the world”, this depends on how Osho has brought light into my world, which is not made up only of emotional needs, as you seem to believe.

Thank you for your diagnosis, as usual you are very good to your fellow human beings, I’m sure that if I decide to follow your advice then you will give me the money to pay for the therapy. I know that anyone who has carried out financial operations betting on pandemics has made lots of money, just like those who are now betting on weapons that will kill Putin, the villain of the moment, are making money.

For me, the Second World War and all its atrocities is a thing of history. I was born in the 1970s, the decades have passed. I don’t feel the need to wallow in it or give its participants more fame. I prefer to focus on the next turning the world needs, an increase in consciousness, a new man, more peaceful people.

I think such things as self-inquiry and mindfulness are genuinely quite useful for people to become more aware of themselves. If you really choose to examine yourself, you get hints that perhaps you are not who you think you are, that your image of yourself is perhaps idealised and you might have a shadow side. This might then lead you into shadow work, which various people in the US mainly have been writing about.

Ultimately you start coming across your traumas, and you start paying attention to possibilities for healing. Bodywork, breathwork, there are many approaches…remember to empty your emotional self. Let go of things, be the man of Tao who is in harmony with Existence.

Anyway… just my 2c for today

I believe that among the reasons for the success among former sannyasins of Brahmanism is the interpretation of the ‘wave and ocean’ metaphor now understood as ‘wave vs ocean’.

It seems that the profound (constitutive) nature of reality is a difficult puzzle, to be investigated with perceptive tools other than those with which we establish the identity, or otherwise, of the objects examined by the 5 senses, taking into account their qualities and quantities (proportions).

If in the invisible world, that borders on metaphysics, it is difficult to contradict the presence of entanglement that seems to bind all entities like electromagnetic waves, measurable with their vibrations, in the visible world of people, Zorba dimension, it is inevitable to use adjectives and therefore make comparisons with those who share much or little of the qualities perceived by the observer.

A philosopher who watched a Nazi criminal defend himself against court charges observed that “The deeds were monstrous, but the one who did them was quite ordinary, neither demonic nor monstrous.”

By specifying more about this quality that seems to belong to all Zorbas, Hannah Arendt clarifies the same concept: “What I really think now is that evil is never radical, but only extreme, and that it has neither depth nor a demonic dimension. It can invade and devastate the whole world, because it expands on the surface like a fungus. It is a challenge for the thought, as I wrote, because thought wants to go deep, it tries to go to the roots of things, and when it is interested in the evil is frustrated, because there is nothing. This is banality. Only the Good has depth, and can be radical.”

For all the Big Heads around who like to bask in their supposed intelligence, H. A. argues that it is not what prevents “evil”:
“The Eichmann trial gave many an opportunity to reflect on human nature and present movements. Eichmann was anything but abnormal: this was his most frightening gift. An inhuman monster would have been less fearsome, because precisely as such it made it difficult to identify with it. But what Eichmann said and the way he said it, only painted the picture of a person who could have been anyone: anyone could be Eichmann, it would have been enough to be without awareness, like him. Even before being unintelligent, he had no ideas of his own and did not realize what he was doing. He was simply a completely fully immersed person in the reality in front of him: working, looking for a promotion, rearranging numbers on statistics, etc…

More than his intelligence, he lacked the ability to question the consequences and impacts of his own actions.”

Sorry for the long quote but I don’t want to hurt anyone by accusing them of “political correctness”, which runs in the blood as an experimental serum in all kinds of fascism, Nazism, Christianity, Zionism, Islamism and sometimes socialisms, like rajneeshpuranism.

We have seen that, not only for me, in Zorba’s world, in addition to qualities, size matters.
The metaphor in question is perhaps misleading because the sea wave has an evanescent and ephemeral quality like the electromagnetic wave, and as I said, this is a quality that should be referred to the profound nature of reality, i.e. Essence, Buddha, God, etc. .

But if what Arendt says is true, that the actions of the villains/Nazis have no roots, then the metaphor to express the disconnected man with his deep nature, the ocean, should rather be that of pieces of ice in the shape of frozen waves on shallow waters.

Identifying ourselves with the non-dual nature of God for someone this could translate into a casually obedient behaviour, going with the flow, with the world perceived by the 5 senses by the majority.

Those who are too busy maintaining the posture that such an accomplishment requires usually react indignantly only when reminded that even a Buddha sometimes scratches his balls or his asshole.

I’m sorry if appearing loathsome is the only way to arouse them from their oceanicity, from their banality of good, remembering how even a sewer can produce a clearly visible and frozen form of wave, as happens with the banality of evil.

Nobody else has come to draw the line.

The loathsomeness Veet’s comments are transporting in my perception is enough for me.

C U sometime.

You certainly keep learning about where your triggers are, and what you still need to let go of.