Comments on: APPEAL FOR FUNDS TO KEEP SN ON THE ROAD

By: satchit

satchit — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 13:03:26 +0000

Something about ‘free will’ :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjCt-L0Ph5o

By: Klaus

Klaus — Wed, 24 Aug 2022 15:58:39 +0000

I will participate in the sharing, too. Also for Clive.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Wed, 24 Aug 2022 13:21:10 +0000

That’s a poor analogy, Satchit, you’re equating involuntary bodily processes with conscious mental decisions based (hopefully) on evidence as well as (perhaps partly unconscious) personal preferences. The two are worlds apart.

By: satchit

satchit — Wed, 24 Aug 2022 12:17:59 +0000

I don’t play a waiting game. I said: “I could”.

The value of decision making is exaggerated.

Did you decide to wake up this morning or did it happen to you?

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Wed, 24 Aug 2022 11:52:57 +0000

Ok, Satchit, so you’re playing a waiting game, and no one’s questioning your or anyone else’s “freedom”, but I don’t see where “choicelessness” comes into it. You’re choosing your personal criteria and in doing so misusing spiritual terminology to ‘glamourise’ a simple, mundane process of making a decision.

By: satchit

satchit — Wed, 24 Aug 2022 11:38:32 +0000

You can be as judgemental as you want, SD.

And you can enjoy your fantasies about me.

Surely I could say I pay if I see what the others have paid.
Or I pay if Frank and Loco come back from holiday and the action becomes better.

Whatever. It is all part of my freedom and my choicelessness.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Wed, 24 Aug 2022 11:03:38 +0000

The word ‘maybe’ is not really viable in this context as one still has to choose from the three options. If you stick with ‘maybe’ you’re essentially choosing not to pay right now, whatever you think you might possibly do later, and whether or not you care (or think you care) about SN’s future.

This has nothing to do with “choicelessness”, in the spiritual sense, that just sounds as if you’re ‘dressing up’, even ‘glamourising’ the mind’s reluctance to commit itself to action, hiding from the fact in your head that might well be something like, “Oh, better wait and see what happens, maybe others will donate enough, and besides, I don’t want to risk losing anything.”

Is this true or am I being too judgmental, not ‘spiritual’ enough?

By: satchit

satchit — Wed, 24 Aug 2022 10:42:04 +0000

“Pseudo-spiritual obfuscation” – Now this is really mean of you, SD.

So only three options are possible? Yes, Master.

Ever heard of the word ‘maybe’?

Btw, I have still the account number of Clive somewhere at home.

MOD:
That account number might have changed, Satchit, and there’s also a Pay Pal option. So it’s probably better to contact Clive via edit@sannyasnews.org and he’ll give you any updated details.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:12:32 +0000

Your “small lesson in choicelessness” over-complicates a very simple matter, Satchit:
Either one wants SN to carry on and is prepared to support this financially, or one cares (or thinks one cares) but doesn’t want to give anything, or one doesn’t care at all – three possible options.

No need for pseudo-spiritual obfuscation, just see the facts and decide.

By: simond

simond — Tue, 23 Aug 2022 21:23:38 +0000

Yes action from you and me. I thought my statement was very clear on this.